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Old 08-26-2013, 08:31 AM
 
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Science is on a different plane then engineering.
I also agree with this. I think that some people are mis-characterizing what it is that scientists do, exactly.

I think that being an engineer makes you a man or woman of science, but it doesn't make you a scientist.

 
Old 08-26-2013, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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lol. Your lack of knowledge is amusing.

Next time an airplane, missile, or drone flies over your head and doesn't fall into your compost pile, think of the engineers I worked with, and thank them. There wasn't a scientist on the property, anywhere, nada, nope, none! All Engineers.
Who did the research for jet propulsion? A scientist.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Engineers tend to view themselves as much less liberal and slightly more conservative than the general public, according to a recent survey of over 1,200 readers of MACHINE DESIGN and Electronic Design magazines. The same survey also found that engineers say they are more likely to be Republican (42.1%) or Independent (33.7%) voters, as opposed to Democrats (14.5%). And although over a third of the engineers think Republicans represent the best interests of the engineering community better than Democrats, a majority of engineers (48.1%) believe neither party is really on the side of engineers.

The politics of engineers | News content from Machine Design
This is not really news. We observed this back in the 70's. Engineering, mathematics, the hard sciences drew the more conservative, while the arts, journalism, social sciences, and general liberal arts, tended to draw the more liberal.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Wilsonville, OR
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Who did the research for jet propulsion? A scientist.

Of course not! The engineers were so brilliant that they discovered the physical and mathematical rules of nature and physical systems on the fly, already fully encoded into their memories as they worked on their projects.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I also agree with this. I think that some people are mis-characterizing what it is that scientists do, exactly.

I think that being an engineer makes you a man or woman of science, but it doesn't make you a scientist.
I agree. I'm an engineer and would never compare myself to a scientist.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This is not really news. We observed this back in the 70's. Engineering, mathematics, the hard sciences drew the more conservative, while the arts, journalism, social sciences, and general liberal arts, tended to draw the more liberal.
That's right brain/left brain..logic/emotion.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Who did the research for jet propulsion? A scientist.
Wrong. The Research & Development group, all Engineers.

Everything was designed and tested on site by Engineers and Experimental Test Pilots, all of whom held Engineering degrees.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 08:41 AM
 
Location: NYC based - Used to Live in Philly - Transplant from Miami
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I was looking at the tables, and some are too small to be legible.
I also want to see the breakdown.
As an electrical engineer myself, I find the source to be incomplete and untrustworthy. They only say "engineers":
1. All of us REAL engineers know that nowadays the term is engineer is used broadly. You can be working in a local theater, overlooking the sound system. And then you are called "sound engineer". You can work in the machine shop with only an Engineering Technician degree, and you are called "mechanical engineer"
2. Also all of us engineers know that any tables / pie charts presented with no substantial data to corroborate is laughable. Let it be from a renowned magazine.

Yes, I am liberal and most of my engineers fellow are liberal. But like what somebody said, we try to keep our minds open. (I hate Rachel Maddow equally as I don't like Rush L.).Please provide me with better sources / citations.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Engineers tend to view themselves as much less liberal and slightly more conservative than the general public, according to a recent survey of over 1,200 readers of MACHINE DESIGN and Electronic Design magazines. The same survey also found that engineers say they are more likely to be Republican (42.1%) or Independent (33.7%) voters, as opposed to Democrats (14.5%). And although over a third of the engineers think Republicans represent the best interests of the engineering community better than Democrats, a majority of engineers (48.1%) believe neither party is really on the side of engineers.

The politics of engineers | News content from Machine Design
Not surprising. Engineers have highly developed critical thinking skills and they are trained by both education and professional experience to think things through to their logical consequences. That alone explains why only 14.5% are Democrats.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Engineers tend to view themselves as much less liberal and slightly more conservative than the general public, according to a recent survey of over 1,200 readers of MACHINE DESIGN and Electronic Design magazines. The same survey also found that engineers say they are more likely to be Republican (42.1%) or Independent (33.7%) voters, as opposed to Democrats (14.5%). And although over a third of the engineers think Republicans represent the best interests of the engineering community better than Democrats, a majority of engineers (48.1%) believe neither party is really on the side of engineers.

The politics of engineers | News content from Machine Design
Folks who are more analytical in nature would have a hard time with much of the current Dem platform since much of it is devoid of any reason. Although for sure Dems do well in engineer heavy places like Silicon Valley.
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