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Old 08-29-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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I agree 100% that there is a huge problem with the educational system in this country, but I just think it is somewhat hypocritical to propose this about OTHER people's children.

I think that until we change the behavior of parents to actually care about their kids education, nothing will chance. Education starts in the home, not in school.
Yes, you are certainly right.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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At least she is honest in that she is judgmental lol.

Sounds like a young, passionate person. But I actually do agree with the premise (not that private school parents are bad people) that if everyone sent their kids to traditional public schools, the schools would be better since everyone would have a stake in the educational system.

That said, that isn't going to happen in our country. So people passionate about this need to get used to it. I also bet that when she has kids, she won't send them to a crappy public school near public housing.

But something to think about is that in Finland, they had an educational crisis in the 1970s and mandated everyone attend public school and learn the same things and that is how they are the cream of the crop now in education. Everyone was educated. This won't happen in our country because too many of us think less than others who are poorer or browner than the masses, so no concerted effort will be made to improve education for all people. Luckily in many areas, people have school choice and poorer families now have the option of sending their kids to private school for free. Two of my nephews go to private schools and their parents aren't bad people, they aren't the greatest (including my sibling) as parents, but the best decision they made was to give those kids an opportunity to go to a highly regarded school. One of my nephews has an IQ of over 150, we joke (but know it is true) that he is our family genius and he is not even a teenager yet. He would not be well served at the public school in his neighborhood and not because he is black or a boy or low income, but because he is way ahead of them academically and would not be challenged. So even though I would not send my kid to a private school unless there were dire circumstances, I don't think that everyone's decision on education are cut and dry, good or bad.

And this is from a parent who did send my kid to a traditional public school for 4 years and who did "work to make the school better." This cannot be done with just one or two families at a school. Especially when teachers and administrators work together to ensure their school is run in a "business as usual" manner. We had many, what I call "battles" with that school, the board, other families, etc. so made the decision to go with a public charter that is better than most private schools IMO and it was the best choice for us. Parents leaving traditional public education, I feel is a good way to force it to strive to be better and adopt more progressive (not liberal progressive but moving away from the norm) policies on education.
didn't take long for the to come out of the deck...
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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??? Be grateful you own your home. In Michigan, Republicans tax rental property for schools at four times the school tax rate on owner-occupied homes.
I own two rental properties. Again I pay MORE than my fair share as I have my entire adult life.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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Her intellect, logic and ideology clearly points to origins of a public school education.

Hopefully she's barren.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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didn't take long for the to come out of the deck...
I suspect race was the implied reason behind the piece to begin with. It's a new twist on desegregation.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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My parents did not work to put us in a nice neighborhood and pay property taxes for schools NOT in our area that were sub-standard.
So you were being bused to an area far from your home?
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:10 AM
 
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??? Be grateful you own your home. In Michigan, Republicans tax rental property for schools at four times the school tax rate on owner-occupied homes.
No they don't, you just can't get homestead tax exemptions on investment properties (and rightly so). The difference comes out to be around 2x as much taxes, not 4x. Both parties also support that program.

Are you saying that there shouldn't be homestead tax statuses on houses?
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Meh, guess I'm a bad person. And you know what, I really don't care. Both my kids went to private school K-12. I only had 13 years to educate them and was unwilling to participate (past the point of paying property taxes) in the failing experiment that is the public schools in my city. I'm fine with paying those taxes so other kids can attempt to get a decent education, but was not OK with sacrificing my own kids to the revolving door of superintendents, falling standards and the latest educational theories that have yet to bear any fruit.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I think you should send your child to the school where they will best accelerate.

The myth that private schools are somehow better than public is absolutely false. Most of the time parents just don't want to deal with poor people or the possibility of a "bad kid", so they send them off to private school out of fear and waste tons of cash.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Meh, guess I'm a bad person. And you know what, I really don't care. Both my kids went to private school K-12. I only had 13 years to educate them and was unwilling to participate (past the point of paying property taxes) in the failing experiment that is the public schools in my city. I'm fine with paying those taxes so other kids can attempt to get a decent education, but was not OK with sacrificing my own kids to the revolving door of superintendents, falling standards and the latest educational theories that have yet to bear any fruit.

And private schools won't have failing standards? Some don't have any standards at all.
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