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View Poll Results: Is Emissions Testing Necessary?
Yes, everywhere 6 17.14%
Yes, only in urban areas 7 20.00%
No 22 62.86%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-02-2013, 04:56 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I recently moved from Maryland to West Virginia, where there is no emissions testing while Maryland does have it. Many states across the country actually don't do emissions tests.

I think emissions tests are NOT necessary since there are already federal standards on all cars sold in the United States. Maybe like 1 in 1000 cars actually fails it. So that's not worth the cost of having these tests either thorugh testing fees or through taxes. I think it is just another way for state governments to collect revenue, and to make the liberal elites in the cities feel good about themselves. Also West Virginia is a mostly rural state with the exception of the Metro Valley (Charleston-Huntington) and even here the air quality is decent.

Oh yes and emissions testing also provides more useless state government jobs and their unions would probably throw a hissy fit if states stopped doing this.
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:19 PM
 
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Without going into whether emissions testing makes sense...some of your statements are not true everywhere.

In my State, emissions testing is done at private garages, dealerships, and some gas stations. Employees of these establishments (NOT the State) conduct the tests on equipment purchased and maintained by the station owner.

The private inspection stations also keep 100% of the $28 emissions inspection fee. The emissions inspection actually costs the State money due to the handful of NON-UNION State employees that administer the program.
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: texas
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I recently moved from Maryland to West Virginia, where there is no emissions testing while Maryland does have it. Many states across the country actually don't do emissions tests.

I think emissions tests are NOT necessary since there are already federal standards on all cars sold in the United States. Maybe like 1 in 1000 cars actually fails it. So that's not worth the cost of having these tests either thorugh testing fees or through taxes. I think it is just another way for state governments to collect revenue, and to make the liberal elites in the cities feel good about themselves. Also West Virginia is a mostly rural state with the exception of the Metro Valley (Charleston-Huntington) and even here the air quality is decent.

Oh yes and emissions testing also provides more useless state government jobs and their unions would probably throw a hissy fit if states stopped doing this.
You must have forgotten the smokey tail pipes of the 70's...Now that more cars are far less poluting, what you want to quit?
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:27 PM
 
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Here in PA it varies by area, in the urban areas the test is more rigorous. Where I live they test the gas cap and make a visual inspection to insure the OEM pollution controls exist. It would be cheaper to buy a new gas cap every few years......
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:28 PM
 
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Considering cars are more modern, it only makes sense to do away with inspection when regulations on car manufacturers will do the same job...
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:59 PM
 
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No, they are not.

That is just one of the ways for the revenue for some states.
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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As cars of the 80's and 90's vanish from the road, I'd say that emissions testing really isn't necessary.

I have three cars that were built in 2001 and one built in 2003, and all of them have 150,000 miles or higher. None of them have failed emission testing in the four years I have owned them -- in fact, none of them ever really have come close to failing.

Sure, if you have an O2 sensor go south, you'll fail the emission test. Or if you have an older car, you could fail. They test all the way back to 1988 cars right now in NC, and I am sure there are some failures with those cars.
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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Here in PA it varies by area, in the urban areas the test is more rigorous. Where I live they test the gas cap and make a visual inspection to insure the OEM pollution controls exist. It would be cheaper to buy a new gas cap every few years......
Beat me to the punch down in my part of PA (Dauphin County, Cumberland County, Lebanon County, Lancaster County, and York County) they run the full gamut of emissions tests. However, in Adams County, there is no emissions test required, not even a tailpipe test. Ditto for most counties north of Dauphin County and west of York County.
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OP, in PA, the private inspector keeps all of the fees. The garage also sets the fees. There are no set fees the state mandates, and the state collects none of it
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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What is the failure rate of emission testing to justify hundreds of millions of dollars spent and millions of hours lost?
Florida stopped testing vehicles over 20 years ago. It was a huge waste of time and money.
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: California
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It's a racket in CA.

The country seems to create jobs by making up new rules to live by then coming up with an industry to enforce it.
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