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Old 09-04-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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Why should anyone take you seriously if you can't make a post without including a snide remark?

May I ask, are you willing to find a middle ground or are you determined to steamroll others until they succumb to your ideas?
People who call others unwarranted names like racist, xenophobic, etc. deserve snide remarks hurled back at them. There is no middle ground in the enforcement of our immigration laws nor should they be. So by telling the truth I am asking others to succumb to "my" ideas? Um, immigration laws are our government's ideas and foreigners are obligated to follow them.
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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I guess there is nothing more to say to you. I cannot tolerate blind stubbornness. Just know, I have not been swayed by your remarks or false accusations. Good day.
So to want our immigration laws respected and enforced is "blind stubbornness" even though both Americans and foreigners are obligated to honor them according to our government? Really? What false accusations? The only false accusations I see in here are the pro-illegals claiming that desiring the above equates to racism, xenophobia, etc.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I guess there is nothing more to say to you. I cannot tolerate blind stubbornness. Just know, I have not been swayed by your remarks or false accusations. Good day.
Its blind stubbornness to want the rule of law to be enforced?
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I would be willing to believe you if the tone of the immigration debate nationwide wasn't so dense with racial hatred towards our southern neighbors.
What Tone? if anyone is for anything other then open borders, amnesty, and free benefits for illegals you and people like you on the left paint them as racist...
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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There are many nations that are both productive and have multiple languages.
Name one major multiculturalismltic nation that is not in the process of ripping itself apart? Why shouldn't America but united with one common language?
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:16 PM
 
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Someone used the term "spawn" earlier in this thread. I simply applied it to the rest of us.

1875 was the year of the first immigration law iirc.

Anyone here with Irish blood? The true Americans used to speak of you as modern "Americans" do today. Just think about it.
I'm of Irish family and to be nasty about it: our rep did suck because so many of us were drunkards, wanted to fight and so on. Look at Detroit 2013 for something similar to now. WE cleaned up our act tho it meant the deaths of many Irish people for different reasons. "No Irish Need Apply" was a problem in some parts of the US till the 1960's. Oh well.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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It's there choice. If your not a UCLA student, faculty member or alumni it really shouldn't matter to you. Unless you're the type that manufactures false outrage like white nationalist...
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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It happens, my wife has been called an "illegal", a "wet-back", and false accused of trying to "steal" someone's identity. My stepson wanted to tear into the guy that called him a "wet-back". It's just not so easily dismissed, and has opened my eyes to the looks and actions of people when they hear my wife's accent, or find out that her and my stepchildren are from Mexico.
So? Look at terms that are very often used on Americans by the immigrants: "gringo" "gueros" "anglos".

Those are most definitely also racist anti-American terms that are frequently hurled at Americans in their own country.

I have also heard first hand, immigrants from Mexico refer to a black American citizen as "El Memin Pinguin" ---Mexicans are often quite racist.

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Old 09-04-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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I would be willing to believe you if the tone of the immigration debate nationwide wasn't so dense with racial hatred towards our southern neighbors.
Always always always that old lame race card you guys play.

It's only racism (if that) if the same people who want Mexicans to respect the immigration laws would turn around and insist on unlimited immigration from Canada or Germany.

That isn't the case. It's the pro-illegals who insist that immigration must be unlimited or that their ethnic group should never have to abide by immigration laws, but actually don't really believe all Europeans, Africans, or Asians have the same right to come in unlimited numbers.

And by the same logic of the open borders crowd, aren't Mexicans then racist themselves because Mexico has immigration laws? You wanna see some real racism, see what would happen if millions of black Americans began to pour over the borders into Mexico and demand their rights there.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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No sir. Back then there were mass riots. Now, we just have to remember to do something we learned in kindergarten; share.

The American paranoia that drives the need to "win" at all costs is the engine behind these threads.

I choose to be compassionate instead. There is no end game. This one life is it and people should be able to enjoy it.
We don't have to share, we gain nothing from it, lower jobs, higher taxes, worse schools(if that is possible) less freedom, more restrictions on civil wars that will come for the climb in crime rates. if you love 3rd world Latin nations, fine, leave us and live their, don't bring them here.

Also what happens when others dont want to share? and you use force or the threat of force? is forced sharing not called theft?

"American Paranoia that drives the need to win at all cost"

You mean the need to success in life and a system of laws that protect men`s rights, liberty, and property that system, the one that has allowed us to do more, create and innovate, to innovate and create more ideas, machines and technology over the last 230 years then over the last 10,000 years?

To compare American inventive genius relative to the rest of the world, let’s go right to the heart of the modern socialist European state. Let’s go to Sweden. If you Google “Swedish inventions” what comes up? Well, Wikipedia has nothing – not one thing – in the 21st century. Swedes did invent the spherical bearing in 1907 – and that’s not a trivial thing – and neither is the first practical dialysis machine, invented by Nils Alwall.

On my monitor, I had to hit “page down” 3 times to run through the list of Swedish inventions. The list of American breakthroughs took me 69 taps of that button, and revealed – just taking one out of twenty, let’s say – Refrigeration, the electric telegraph, anesthesia, assembly line production, the airplane, the bulldozer, extragalactic astronomy, the liquid-fueled rocket, EEG brain topography, the digital computer, nylon, ,the creation of the first Transuranium element, nuclear weapons, the transistor, supersonic flight, the video game, cable television, radiocarbon dating, the atomic clock, the credit card, the nuclear submarine, the laser, carbon fiber, the integrated circuit, the weather satellite, the birth control pill, the communications satellite, Kevlar, the compact disc, the jumbo jet, the personal computer, email, the Heimlich maneuver, the space shuttle, the graphic user interface, the global positioning system, and in case you missed any of that: TiVo. Oh, and parenthetically, this nation of idiots landed on the moon two generations ago, and we also mapped the human genome about a decade ahead of schedule.

Would you not consider that exceptional scientific output for less than five percent of the world’s population? I think that’s exceptionally exceptional.



"I choose to be compassionate instead. There is no end game. This one life is it and people should be able to enjoy it."

You choice feeling over thinking, you choice to give away what is not yours to give give away, and you choice to be compassionate with the wealth of others.

This is the end game, what does America what? A common culture, common beliefs, and unified by a common language, or to be strangers in our nation, split off into a balkanized America.

A hundred years ago, President Teddy Roosevelt said, "The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing as a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities." It was true then just As more Americans are waking up to this fact.

So because of this life is it others should be able to break the law and reduce my standards of living to improve their own..and that makes it ok?

And you guys wonder why people are waking up in mass to the fact liberals are mentally ill.
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