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Old 09-06-2013, 06:31 AM
 
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30 bricks of heroin.....

Now.....

Regardless of what argument is to be made as to how guns and drugs make their way into certain areas and how said areas are a lopsided demographic...

Let's make one concession on principle...

This was ONE person who enabled this kid. It was a kingpin who clearly put this kid up to the task. This is a common phenomenon. The higher ups in the crime rings enlist youths to do their bidding because we have a system that slaps juveniles on the wrist. Much more efficient for the operation to indoctrinate a youth and make him understand he will be taken care of if he just shuts his mouth and does his year or two in the youth house.

No matter where you point the finger....there is a scumbag who built a personal relationship with this kid, established plenty of face time and built up his trust...all for self-service.

http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/20...or_arrest.html
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:34 AM
 
Location: USA
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If you End the Drug War you won't have those problems.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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Yup, agree. The problem here isn't the kid or the kingpin. A better path is to take all of the resources used to persecute the tree huggers and the green stuff and put it towards programs to get people off heroin and meth.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:37 AM
 
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If you End the Drug War you won't have those problems.
Yes, but you don't end the problem of usury and lack of accountability.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:38 AM
 
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Yes, but you don't end the problem of usury and lack of self-accountability.
That is a much better alternative than kids getting killed in gang wars.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:42 AM
 
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That is a much better alternative than kids getting killed in gang wars.
Look, anybody who states that we need to end the war on drugs in regards to my post is preaching to the choir.

But just because the War on Drugs is terribly inefficient, by design, and not really intended to clean up any mess....it's a racket being made off of bad values and bad decisions. We can end the war on drugs today and there is still going to be a black market along with murder. Ending the war on drugs just curbs federal expenditures. You'd have to legalize everything in the wake of it.

And as of right now...marijuana is still illegal for the most part... How far off is heroin? I'd say pretty damn far. We don't even have safe havens for heroin use.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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War on Drugs
War on Guns

You have a bigger problem here folks.
The drugs and weapons are tools.
Get rid of them doesn't mean you got rid of the problem.
Different tools will emerge.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:48 AM
 
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Huh?
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:57 AM
 
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If you End the Drug War you won't have those problems.
Most likely not...... This is quite sad.......
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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30 bricks of heroin.....

Now.....

Regardless of what argument is to be made as to how guns and drugs make their way into certain areas and how said areas are a lopsided demographic...

Let's make one concession on principle...

This was ONE person who enabled this kid. It was a kingpin who clearly put this kid up to the task. This is a common phenomenon. The higher ups in the crime rings enlist youths to do their bidding because we have a system that slaps juveniles on the wrist. Much more efficient for the operation to indoctrinate a youth and make him understand he will be taken care of if he just shuts his mouth and does his year or two in the youth house.

No matter where you point the finger....there is a scumbag who built a personal relationship with this kid, established plenty of face time and built up his trust...all for self-service.

14-year-old Newark boy killed had 30 bricks of heroin and loaded gun in his bedroom | NJ.com

I love a story with a happy ending.
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