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Most of the people on food stamps are already working, so this will apply to a minority of people on food stamps.
I don't see the value of the volunteer work. It's a waste of time, because it takes away time they could be spending finding work. What people want is real paid work. Unless it's in an area in which they would also receive training, like in fund-raising at a non-profit for example. But volunteering as a janitor somewhere, I don't think that's going to be fruitful.
Now if they can find some kind of paid work for people without jobs who are on food stamps that would be great.
Training is a great idea, but is it going to be a high-quality training, like community college courses in an in-demand field?
Michigan actually has a training program that uses income withholding taxes to fund training for good jobs (e.g. software developer), designed primarily for the benefit of employers. But it's a catch-22 for individuals seeking training and jobs.
A business develops a job/training plan, hires workers, and the newly-hired worker's witholding tax is used to pay for the training. So the individual doesn't get the free training unless they are first hired and I have no idea how that's supposed to work. An employer wants to train a developer, okay, so exactly what is the worker being hired to do BEFORE they complete the training? That part doesn't make sense to me, and of course it's no use at all to older workers who don't get hired when there are plenty of young workers available.
Michigan actually has a training program that uses income withholding taxes to fund training for good jobs (e.g. software developer), designed primarily for the benefit of employers. But it's a catch-22 for individuals seeking training and jobs.
A business develops a job/training plan, hires workers, and the newly-hired worker's witholding tax is used to pay for the training. So the individual doesn't get the free training unless they are first hired and I have no idea how that's supposed to work. An employer wants to train a developer, okay, so exactly what is the worker being hired to do BEFORE they complete the training? That part doesn't make sense to me, and of course it's no use at all to older workers who don't get hired when there are plenty of young workers available.
In your scenario the individual benefits from a good job that they would not have obtained without the training. They sacrifice nothing. So what is your problem with that?
One can understand why you are making minimum wage and having trouble paying your rent.
??? Wherever did you get the idea I am having trouble paying my rent? That's the first thing I pay. Did you think child care and CNA are good jobs? Why aren't you doing that work?
In your scenario the individual benefits from a good job that they would not have obtained without the training. They sacrifice nothing. So what is your problem with that?
What work is the employee supposed to be doing while being trained? Are they doing real work or make-work? And what use is it to workers who don't get hired, like older workers? You still have a boatload of people - and the most disadvantaged to boot - who can't get the skills they need to get ahead.
There is already a movement afoot from liberals to ban unpaid internships. They've been denounced as exploitive. I'm sure volunteer work falls in this category to many progs such as Ellen.
No one is talking about unpaid internships. For someone who allegedly has a lot of experience working for non-profits, I'm surprised you've apparently never worked with volunteers. What about a volunteer reading to the kids in the waiting room of an immunization clinic? Stuff like that. And volunteer work can be through church, or some other non-profit as well. Schools use lots of volunteers. Some volunteer jobs I have done at my kids' schools-take kids to library, help with special events, chaperone field trips. Some parents do crossing-guard duty. DH used to collate the kids' book orders.
I have a friend named Ellen. Is that who you're talking about?
Originally Posted by EdwardA
There is already a movement afoot from liberals to ban unpaid internships. They've been denounced as exploitive. I'm sure volunteer work falls in this category to many progs such as Ellen.
Experience is the best teacher. There is nothing wrong with supervised internship. It's better than being thrown into the thick of it without someone to consult with as you learn the real world. At least that's the way I did it. Then again, you wouldn't have a problem with doctors learning by reading books and listening to lectures then as soon as they graduate they can pick up the scapula. Will you be their first patient for the unsupervised newbie?
i have never seen any jobs bill or anything outside of those 3 things i mentioned.
Good point.
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