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Old 10-01-2013, 12:37 AM
 
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That's right, kind of ironic but at the very same minute the government shut down over attempts to defund the ACA, www.healthcare.gov went live with the national and state exchanges now open for enrollment.

People just need to get over it, the ACA is here to stay and will begin improving people's lives starting today.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:43 AM
 
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How do you improve people's lives by taking money from them?
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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I got through but they need (and know!) a lot of info to confirm your identity before showing the plans and rates. I suppose it's to determine your eligibility for tax credits. They asked if I had a credit card with X,Y, or Z and if I owned car-model X,Y, or Z. They know, so you have to answer correctly to get verified.

"We’ll keep your information private as required by law. Your answers on this form will only be used to determine eligibility for health coverage or help paying for coverage. We’ll check your answers using the information in our electronic databases and the databases of other federal agencies. If the information doesn’t match, we may ask you to send us proof.

We won’t ask any questions about your medical history. Household members who don’t want coverage won’t be asked questions about citizenship or immigration status.

Important: As part of the application process, we may need to retrieve your information from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), Social Security, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and/or a consumer reporting agency. We need this information to check your eligibility for coverage and help paying for coverage if you want it and to give you the best service possible. We may also check your information at a later time to make sure your information is up to date. We’ll notify you if we find something has changed."
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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How do you improve people's lives by taking money from them?
Our health care system is so expensive that few people can pay without insurance. And even if you think you are invincible (when you're not) you are still paying for the care of others. Bringing everyone in the risk pool will lower costs for everyone.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:58 AM
 
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"We’ll keep your information private as required by law. Your answers on this form will only be used to determine eligibility for health coverage or help paying for coverage. We’ll check your answers using the information in our electronic databases and the databases of other federal agencies. If the information doesn’t match, we may ask you to send us proof.
Only a complete idiot would believe that fairy tale.

The very PURPOSE of all this is to allow politicians access to more means of blackmail.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:59 AM
 
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Bringing everyone in the risk pool will lower costs for everyone.
Explain to me how this works.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Only a complete idiot would believe that fairy tale.

The very PURPOSE of all this is to allow politicians access to more means of blackmail.
While I by no means implicitly trust the government, the idea that members of Congress or anyone in a high political office would have unfettered access to the private details people will submit to the health exchanges in their applications is really absurd.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:01 AM
 
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You must be very young and very naive.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:02 AM
 
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Bringing everyone in the risk pool will lower costs for everyone.
If you couldn't afford it before how can you afford now? There is no teeth to the mandate, in fact there is incentive to drop your insurance since you can't be denied coverage.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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If you couldn't afford it before how can you afford now? There is no teeth to the mandate, in fact there is incentive to drop your insurance since you can't be denied coverage.
Please inform yourself on the ACA. It provides hundreds of billions in subsidies to people who could not afford it.
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