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Old 09-23-2013, 11:02 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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What Republicans are doing now is one of the most disgusting things I've ever witness in politics, and it has nothing to do with whether or not you like Obamacare. Every decent, Constitution-loving American should be concerned about what they are doing.

Like it or not, Obamacare is the law of the land. It was passed through the legislative and executive process, and it was reviewed by the judicial process and upheld. Those are all three branches of the government involved, folks, as per design. You may not like it, but it passed fair and square, and it's legal.

Don't like it? There is a simple solution: win an election, take control of the Presidency and Senate, pass a bill repealing Obamacare through the House and Senate, get the President to sign it.

There. See how that works, conservatives? It's in that there Constitution to which you like to pay so much lip service.

Guess what's NOT in there, though? Threatening to extort America's credit rating, stock market performance, and near-term economic health because you're all butt hurt that you didn't get your way.

And if the American public is so overwhelmingly in your court, Republicans, THEN WHY DID YOU LOSE THE RE-ELECTION?

If Republicans and conservatives love the Constitution and are so sure that they have the public support, then they should actually abide by the document and put their money where their mouths are: win the election in 2014, get super-majority in House and Senate, and then deal with Obamacare appropriately through the process that has worked here for over 200 years. Like it or not, that's how it's supposed to work.

Given that they've decided to skip all that and just resort instead to political / economic terrorism, what does that tell about what they think of their chances (and of the good of the nation)?
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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LMAO! Drinking much tonight?
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:07 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I don't understand what your talking about, the house passed a budget to keep government running.

Don't forget
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.” …….. Senator Barack Obama
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:11 PM
 
Location: southern california
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they can't win
their wives and children have turned against them
Matthew 10 28
minorities block vote77% white 22%
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:15 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I don't understand what your talking about, the house passed a budget to keep government running.

Don't forget
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.” …….. Senator Barack Obama
Don't play dumb. Everyone knows what they did. Obviously, they are trying to push America to the brink and say "undo Obamacare or we all go under." And that's a reprehensible tactic.

If you don't like laws, win elections and repeal them through the legislative process.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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You mean like the 2010 election that gave the GOP control of the House? That kind of election? Republicans are doing exactly what they were elected to do. You don't like it too bad, that's what you people said when Obama won.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:17 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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LMAO! Drinking much tonight?
HAR DEEE HAR!

Come back when you have an intelligent viewpoint that you can articulate.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:19 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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You mean like the 2010 election that gave the GOP control of the House? That kind of election? Republicans are doing exactly what they were elected to do. You don't like it too bad, that's what you people said when Obama won.
Great. Now how about the Presidency oe Senate, so that they can push a legislative agenda? OH, THAT'S RIGHT - THEY DIDN'T WIN EITHER LAST TIME.

Nobody elected these idiots to bypass the Constitution and attempt to undo a law by extorting the nation's credit rating.

If the voting public had wanted Obamacare repealed so damn much, a Republican would be sitting in the White House today.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:19 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Don't play dumb. Everyone knows what they did. Obviously, they are trying to push America to the brink and say "undo Obamacare or we all go under." And that's a reprehensible tactic.

If you don't like laws, win elections and repeal them through the legislative process.
House passed a budget, just waiting on the senate.

What do you have to say about then senator Obama raising the debt ceiling is a lack of leadership on the presidents part? Or do you just ignore that since it does not fit your agenda?
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Maybe you should consider that the House is where the budget starts and the {R}s are using parlimentray rules in the Senate.
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