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Old 10-23-2013, 06:05 AM
 
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Plumes of smog as far as the eye can see,...
It's actually mostly residential and small commercial buildings. They use a lot of coal for heat and don't have the option of anthracite.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:10 AM
 
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I wonder if Chinese residents wish they had the equivalent of an EPA?
Well I'd imagine if they have a choice:

A:Chinese EPA
B:Freeze your ass off

This wouldn't be a hard choice. I'm thinking it's B, what do you think?
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:25 AM
 
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Well I'd imagine if they have a choice:

A:Chinese EPA
B:Freeze your ass off

This wouldn't be a hard choice. I'm thinking it's B, what do you think?
I don't think they would choose B.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:28 AM
 
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Just realized both of my answers mean the same thing, need more coffee.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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Yes, we'd be so much better off in the U.S. if it weren't for the Clean Air Act and the EPA.

do right-wingers have any idea what they're talking about most of the time

thanks for using sarcasm, that just might penetrate...
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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Probably worse than cigarettes since it's constant.

Health care will be the biggest industry in a few years.
Not really constant...depending on the weather.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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What do you suggest they do to keep more than 1 billion people warm in the winter?
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It's actually mostly residential and small commercial buildings. They use a lot of coal for heat and don't have the option of anthracite.
There are many options... They still have a command style economy but they opted for the cheapest energy source. This is the result when you use cheap coal and have bad regulations.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:50 AM
 
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There are many options...
Such as what? Estimates are they use about 4 to 5 billion tons per year, the US uses 1 billion tons. 5 billion tons is about 110,000,000,000,000,000 BTU's. It's what they have available, you aren't going to replace that overnight, a few years or even in a few decades. The only thing that is going to change is how they use it with increased pollution controls, it's really their only choice since it's the one fuel they have a large quantity of domestically.

China is going to expand their renewable energy profile because they have little choice in that either, at the rate their are going now they will burn through their domestic supply in the next 3 to 4 decades. Replacement of coal is going to take decades and in the meantime they are going to burn every piece of coal they can get their hands on, they are importing large quantities now some of it coming from here.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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Harbin is the coldest metropolitan (with millions of residents) in the world. Much colder than Moscow or Toronto.
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Old 10-25-2013, 02:20 PM
 
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Schools closed due to smog, flights cancelled, what a place to live.




Chinese city of Harbin shrouded in smog as air pollution soars - Telegraph
Yes and yet we have a country full of CINOS who don't have the brain power to understand why we need an EPA.
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