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I've dealt with more government bureaucracy than most, what with being an immigrant and all. And I would rather take on the INS (as we called it) 7 days a week and twice on Sunday than deal with our incredibly rotten prescription medicine service.
Why? Because the government bureaucracy doesn't have a direct economic incentive to scr.w me, but the insurance company does - and they will. They do.
Trying to convince a call center employee in Bangalore that no, I never had the generic and no, I will not take their earnest $.50/hour assurance that the generic "is just as as good" over my doctor's recommendation and no, I don't believe that their supervisors are changing shifts and can't be reached, and no, I don't believe that the fax "has gone missing" - it's the 7th circle of hell.
Give me the DMV, the INS, the IRS and the damn LADOT - they may be slow and cumbersome, but they're rarely malevolent.
You are right... this is just getting silly.
ANYONE who openly admits they'd prefer to deal with the government for everything and anything, is inhaling helium a farting smoke. i.e. hot air
ANYONE who openly admits they'd prefer to deal with the government for everything and anything, is inhaling helium a farting smoke.
I've never had one problem with Medicare. Not one. And that includes some rather extensive medical procedures including surgery (myself) and an outpatient hospital procedure (my wife) in the last couple of years. As well as many doctor appointments for both of us.
ANYONE who openly admits they'd prefer to deal with the government for everything and anything...
Did I say that? I very specifically dealt with healthcare - or, rather, healthcare financing. I have decades of experience with UHC in 2 different European countries as well as a decade in the US and I can guarantee you that the US model makes me pay more, get less, and is forcing me to fight every step of the way. I've seen it done so much better.
Did I say that? I very specifically dealt with healthcare - or, rather, healthcare financing. I have decades of experience with UHC in 2 different European countries as well as a decade in the US and I can guarantee you that the US model makes me pay more, get less, and is forcing me to fight every step of the way. I've seen it done so much better.
Oh boy! Mentioning you've had experience with one or more UHC plans in other countries and they have performed better.... well now we know you're a heretic and probably have 666 tatooed on your forehead. these folks don't want to hear any of that socialist codswallop. Even if it's the truth.
Could you imagine the hoops you'd have to jump through when negotiating with a government bureaucrat instead of a hospital billing admin, or insurance company?
Where would that happen? Insurance is insurance when it me dealing with them. The battle you are talking about takes place elsewhere, between the insurance company and the government.
Seriously, every time this happens its worth a thread now. Man has heart attack and wakes up with medical bills. Women gets in car accident and wakes up with medical bills. Man has stroke and gets medical bills.
So, this bill was due to being out of network, right? Hmm. I did some research on the plans on the exchange for our state and none of them pay out of network. Says for out of network, out of pocket maximum "unlimited". I surmise this article was to show how Obamacare would have stopped this from happening?? Not always. Read the policies they're offering on healthcare.gov carefully.
To be fair, I do not know what his state offers but Obamacare wouldn't have helped him here.
After stepping out of the shower and collapsing in his bathroom, one man woke up in the hospital 12 days later – with a $150,000 hospital bill.
According to a report by azcentral.com, 65-year-old Scott Richardson was transported unconscious to Mayo Clinic Hospital in Scottsdale, Ariz., in February after passing out and hitting his head on the bathroom floor.
I don't think we are getting the full story here. To begin with, every BCBS policy covers emergency care. Being out cold in ICU is emergency care. You are supposed to call them within 24 hours, however in his case the hospital business office would call. His wife should have called too, just to double up. Why was she even asking the doctor, they don't know. Which tells me BCBS was not contacted until much later. The AZ state emergency plan (whatever it's called) shouldn't have been in play. No wonder it got all messed up, it got coded wrong, in the computers wrong, etc.. He's gotta be on medicare, with a BCBS supplemental since he's 65 and since they mentioned checking federal law (they were probably checking for fraud). I mean, I don't really know, but it sounds fishy to me.
I'm just relieved he now can't be denied maternity care for when he gets pregnant. That would be an expensive bill.
Its so unfair that we have to cover that-I mean, its not like WE had anything to do with it.
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these folks don't want to hear any of that socialist codswallop. Even if it's the truth.
