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Old 11-18-2013, 09:09 AM
 
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I just read that even heating olive oil to sautee in it will cause it to have trans fats. Ban olive oil too? Warning!!!!! Do not COOK with this!!!
You haven't cooked much with olive oil have you. In order to have that problem you need to heat it to an extremely high temperature as is the case in commercial frying, and even then olive oil holds up better then pretty much any other oil. With decent quality olive oil you are never going to get remotely close to this with sauteing. Basically you should not see smoke coming out of your olive oil if you do you are cooking at too high a setting.

http://www.oliveoilsource.com/page/h...live-oil#Myths
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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I've been reading labels for decades, and stopped using products with trans fats long ago. Same with food coloring, high fructose corn syrup, vegetable oils for cooking ("canola oil" ? comes from the canola plant? ), and all the other cr*ap that goes into our foods. It's been said that if you can't pronounce the ingredients, or don't know what they are, don't buy the product. Not a bad general rule.
what silliness.

can you pronounce polymethoxylated flavone? how about flavanone glycosides?
narirutin?
hesperidin?
didymin?

if not, you just ruled out ever drinking orange juice again.

btw - what on earth is wrong with canola oil?

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Another good guide to remember is that if the ingredients list is too long, it's probably bad for you.
more hilariously simplistic reasoning.

there are over 800 chemical compounds present in coffee. yet there's a very long list of various health benefits associated with drinking it. ditto for the aforementioned orange juice.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:59 AM
 
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btw - what on earth is wrong with canola oil?
Didn't you ever watch the movie, Lorenzo's Oil?

NIH had scientific proof that it caused heart attacks.

They don't call it "rapeseed" oil for nothing.

Ask NIH - They have all the answers!
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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Didn't you ever watch the movie, Lorenzo's Oil?

NIH had scientific proof that it caused heart attacks.

They don't call it "rapeseed" oil for nothing.

Ask NIH - They have all the answers!
nope, never saw it.

i asked NIH - they gave me this:

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Evidence of health benefits of canola oil.

Abstract
Canola oil-based diets have been shown to reduce plasma cholesterol levels in comparison with diets containing higher levels of saturated fatty acids. Consumption of canola oil also influences biological functions that affect various other biomarkers of disease risk. Previous reviews have focused on the health effects of individual components of canola oil. Here, the objective is to address the health effects of intact canola oil, as this has immediate practical implications for consumers, nutritionists, and others deciding which oil to consume or recommend. A literature search was conducted to examine the effects of canola oil consumption on coronary heart disease, insulin sensitivity, lipid peroxidation, inflammation, energy metabolism, and cancer cell growth. Data reveal substantial reductions in total cholesterol and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, as well as other positive actions, including increased tocopherol levels and improved insulin sensitivity, compared with consumption of other dietary fat sources. In summary, growing scientific evidence supports the use of canola oil, beyond its beneficial actions on circulating lipid levels, as a health-promoting component of the diet.
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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The government had been paying for health care for the most high risk people since Medicare was created

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Not so. People pay into Medicare all their working lives, and then pay premiums FOR the coverage.

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You haven't cooked much with olive oil have you. In order to have that problem you need to heat it to an extremely high temperature as is the case in commercial frying, and even then olive oil holds up better then pretty much any other oil. With decent quality olive oil you are never going to get remotely close to this with sauteing. Basically you should not see smoke coming out of your olive oil if you do you are cooking at too high a setting.

Heating Olive Oil | The Olive Oil Source
Yes, this is accurate. Besides, olive oil has other health benefits!

Those of you who swear by canola oil, do you know what it is? Where does it come from?
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Didn't you ever watch the movie, Lorenzo's Oil?

NIH had scientific proof that it caused heart attacks.

They don't call it "rapeseed" oil for nothing.

Ask NIH - They have all the answers!
???
What are you going on about?
The name 'rapeseed' is derived through Old English from a term for turnip, rapum.
You think there's something nefarious about its name?
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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???
What are you going on about?
The name 'rapeseed' is derived through Old English from a term for turnip, rapum.
You think there's something nefarious about its name?
Just pulling your leg a little. Relax and breath.

"Canola is a genetically engineered plant developed in Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family of plants. According to AgriAlternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology Magazine for Farmers, "By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been used to produce oils for industrial purposes, are... toxic to humans and other animals"."

Canola Oil - Health Hazard

Enjoy the movie. It changed the "science".

Then, the movie changed the law.


Lorenzo's Oil Trailer - YouTube
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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Just pulling your leg a little. Relax and breath.

"Canola is a genetically engineered plant developed in Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family of plants. According to AgriAlternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology Magazine for Farmers, "By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been used to produce oils for industrial purposes, are... toxic to humans and other animals"."

Canola Oil - Health Hazard

Enjoy the movie. It changed the "science".

Then, the movie changed the law.


Lorenzo's Oil Trailer - YouTube
umm... your souce is 'breathing.com'?

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Lorenzo’s oil is 4 parts of glyceryl trioleate and 1 part glyceryl trierucate, which are the triacylglycerol forms of oleic acid and erucic acid[1] and are prepared from olive oil and rapeseed oil.2
snopes.com: Canola Oil and Rape Seed

Canola oil: Does it contain toxins? - MayoClinic.com

what does the genetically modified aspect have to do with anything?
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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umm... your souce is 'breathing.com'?


snopes.com: Canola Oil and Rape Seed


what does the genetically modified aspect have to do with anything?
It's Canucking oil.

"MARKETING LEAR

Before LEAR oil could be promoted as a healthy alternative to polyunsaturated oils, it needed a new name. Neither "rape" nor "lear" could be expected to invoke a healthy image for the new "Cinderella" crop. In 1978, the industry settled on "canola," for "Canadian oil," since most of the new rapeseed at that time was grown in Canada. "Canola" also sounded like "can do" and "payola," both positive phrases in marketing lingo. However, the new name did not come into widespread use until the early 1990s."

The Great Con-ola - Weston A Price Foundation

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Old 11-18-2013, 11:48 AM
 
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It's Canucking oil.

MARKETING LEAR

Before LEAR oil could be promoted as a healthy alternative to polyunsaturated oils, it needed a new name. Neither "rape" nor "lear" could be expected to invoke a healthy image for the new "Cinderella" crop. In 1978, the industry settled on "canola," for "Canadian oil," since most of the new rapeseed at that time was grown in Canada. "Canola" also sounded like "can do" and "payola," both positive phrases in marketing lingo. However, the new name did not come into widespread use until the early 1990s.

The Great Con-ola - Weston A Price Foundation
what does it matter that they changed the name?

did you notice that your wondrous lorenzo's oil is actually made from canola oil?
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