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Once Obamacare has thoroughly crashed, the government will come sailing in like a knight on a white horse, ready to save the day and pick up the pieces by imposing Single Payer on the country. As planned.
Single Payer is the complete government takeover of the medical industry. It starts by their becoming the ONLY source of payments for medical procedures. Once people are used to them being in charge of that, they will start tightening the screws on hospital payments, doctors' salaries, pharmaceutical research, medical device research, everything that costs money.
At the same time, they will start to favor less expensive procedures over more expensive ones. And in time, this will happen even for expensive procedures that are more safe than less expensive ones.
And eventually, they will start making decisions based on the idea that hugely expensive procedures that will extend a person's life by only a few months, might not be a good idea when that huge amount of money could have bbeen spent on many other patients for procedures that would extend their lives by much longer periods. The people making these decisions will get, and eventually deserve, the title of "Death Panels".
As Government Single Payer continues to lose money, they will gradually choke off research, then services, then care etc., until everything is being done by high school dropout level personnel, with payments to match, and appointments will take a month or three to get.
Incompetence this bad can't possibly be accidental.
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Imagine a company wants to take care of one of your vital needs - financial management, for instance. So, you hire them to find your best deal on a mortgage, and they're late, the company they put you with is a nightmare, and your deal is stinker, with high rates and a bunch of insurances you don't need.
When you object, the salesman tells you that you're not liking it because they need to manage ALL your financial affairs to make it work out ok, and you should let them make ALL your financial decisions.
Do that and min wage workers will end up paying someone on payday because there will be nothing left in their checks for them after government takes out "their fair share" to fund this social program.
How do you propose this be paid for other than bumping FICA up to 15-20% on the employee side ?
The tooth fairy is busy funding Wall Street to the tune of $80 billion a month for infinity.
Santa is busy expanding means tested programs to where people making over $80K a year now qualify for welfare benefits.
The Easter Bunny is busy writing checks to foreign countries for billions of dollars in order to buy "friendship".
How do you propose this be paid for other than bumping FICA up to 15-20% on the employee side ?
The tooth fairy is busy funding Wall Street to the tune of $80 billion a month for infinity.
Santa is busy expanding means tested programs to where people making over $80K a year now qualify for welfare benefits.
The Easter Bunny is busy writing checks to foreign countries for billions of dollars in order to buy "friendship".
There's no one left to magically pay for this.
Still ignoring the enormous amounts of money people would no longer have to deduct from their paycheck to cover health insurance, I see.
Care to address this little oversight of yours, or will you continue to post this half-argument over and over on multiple threads?
Do that and min wage workers will end up paying someone on payday because there will be nothing left in their checks for them after government takes out "their fair share" to fund this social program.
A good argument for raising the minimum wage, which is long, long overdue. Workers would be in effect paying for their own healthcare, which would be cheaper than paying for private insurance.
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I hope so, too. The sooner we get to single payer, the better.
