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What a crock. If you don't want to work at a job when the schedule calls for it then quit or get fired. I wouldn't have hired him back.
For five years straight most of my Landscape employees wanted to work on Thanksgiving during the construction boom. They had a choice either work Thanksgiving or the Friday after. I let the majority make the decision for the group. Every year but one they worked on Thanksgiving and I paid them time and a half.
No contradiction. On the last two New Year's Days we had one employee volunteer to come in because they weren't going out on NYE and they genuinely wanted to be at the shop instead of home alone.
You realized this was a service provided to your customers. Just as the shop where I worked. Providing a service to your customers shouldn't be regulated to only those businesses that can be run by the owners.
How would you have felt if you were told that you could not provide this service and you must close?
You realized this was a service provided to your customers. Just as the shop where I worked. Providing a service to your customers shouldn't be regulated to only those businesses that can be run by the owners.
How would you have felt if you were told that you could not provide this service and you must close?
Really reaching for a point there, eh?
If, as an employee, I really felt I had to serve coffee to people to make my day I suppose I would've set up a table outside the closed shop and sold coffee for a few hours. Doesn't take much ingenuity to figure out how to do that. I can't speak for other owners, but in an instance like that most coffeehouse owners would have happily lent them airpots and extension cords, sold them the beans and allowed use of water and electricity. They could keep the profits. An owner would love an employee who took initiative like that.
Yeah forget about the true hero, ownership. You know, the ones who risk their own money in the marketplace and create the jobs?
Oh yes, those poor, poor suits sitting in their ivory towers that create oh so many jobs that provide livable wages. Oh wait, you mean the same types of people responsible for outsourcing, destroying labor rights, the 2008 meltdown, and the continuing decline of the American middle class? I feel sooooo sorrry for them.
If, as an employee, I really felt I had to serve coffee to people to make my day I suppose I would've set up a table outside the closed shop and sold coffee for a few hours. Doesn't take much ingenuity to figure out how to do that. I can't speak for other owners, but in an instance like that most coffeehouse owners would have happily lent them airpots and extension cords, sold them the beans and allowed use of water and electricity. They could keep the profits. An owner would love an employee who took initiative like that.
Anything else?
It's your point.
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Originally Posted by sskink
I owned a coffeehouse for seven years. We were open every holiday except Christmas for a half day (and our final year we opened for Christmas as we didn't have travel plans). However, on most holidays my wife and I were the only people working. We did that out of support to the community. We made money. Morning business was brisk and on holidays tips were insane - the customers who came out were truly delighted to have a local place open. But we would never force an employee to work that day.
He may have risked the money, but consumers create jobs.
Anyway, any one ordering a pizza on Thanksgiving needs their head examined.
Everything in this country except for emergency services should be CLOSED.
I don't know if I'd go that far. Many of these businesses can hire temps who don't mind working the holidays (or find them within the company). Then everyone's happy. The problem starts when employers start forcing it. There's absolutely no reason why they can't give employees the option to work that day, stay open if they feel enough people have volunteered, close otherwise. I'd also make an effort to stop and ask myself,
"How many customers is this really going to upset? Will most of them understand and actually prefer knowing we let our employees off so they could spend time with their families?"
As it relates to this thread, I can't imagine someone being all that upset that they can't go out for pizza or order it for delivery on Thanksgiving. Someone that insensitive and selfish probably doesn't deserve a pizza anyway
The local groceries by all reports were jammed today (I had to go to one and it was busier than usual, Sunday busy). The local McDonald's was open and full as was Subway. The one real restaurant open had about a half hour wait for a table. This was around 1 or so this afternoon.
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