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Old 12-10-2013, 11:01 PM
 
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The best way to help the poor is to improve the economy.
Making it so it is convenient for businesses to lower the hours each worker can work is making the economy less efficient.
Why would the liberals want more scheduling conflicts and more commuting time for those that can't afford either?

In addition, why raise the minimum wage to the point where a machine is a better investment?
Why punish the low skilled worker AND the tax payer?


Also, health care is a nice thing to have until people have to pay for it, and forcing the employers and the middle class to pay is not really a good idea when they can't afford it.

Where is the party that knows how to help the poor, the party that will provide the environment for many jobs and not raise the amount it costs to live?
It is said that decades ago houses were less than 1k square feet. The laws for my city states that new homes must be 1200 sq ft min.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:06 PM
 
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If the poor person does not have enough skills to demand a "surviving" wage, the next important thing is hours. Why make it harder to work more hours?
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The best way to help the poor is to improve the economy.
Agreed. This is better than welfare.

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Making it so it is convenient for businesses to lower the hours each worker can work is making the economy less efficient.
Why would the liberals want more scheduling conflicts and more commuting time for those that can't afford either?
Agreed.

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In addition, why raise the minimum wage to the point where a machine is a better investment?
Why punish the low skilled worker AND the tax payer?
Agreed.

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Also, health care is a nice thing to have until people have to pay for it, and forcing the employers and the middle class to pay is not really a good idea when they can't afford it.
Health care needs to be available. That being said, employers should not be mandated to provide it.

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Where is the party that knows how to help the poor, the party that will provide the environment for many jobs and not raise the amount it costs to live?
The Republicans have some better ideas here but they're far from perfect.

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It is said that decades ago houses were less than 1k square feet. The laws for my city states that new homes must be 1200 sq ft min.
That's a zoning issue. Cities should be able to make these kind of restrictions though I'm not saying I agree.
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Old 12-10-2013, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If the poor person does not have enough skills to demand a "surviving" wage, the next important thing is hours. Why make it harder to work more hours?
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:30 AM
 
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In addition, why raise the minimum wage to the point where a machine is a better investment?
Why punish the low skilled worker AND the tax payer?
Good point here.

I would include outsourcing to other countries as another option for a better investment because of higher minimum wages.
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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Automation (including robots) and outsourcing are not directly impacted by minimum wage. They will employ automation even if there is no minimal wage, since its easier than dealing with people. Same with outsourcing: even when cost of outsourcing is similar to domestic cost, they do it because its the trend wall street likes.
The fast food industry and retail are next industries which will be seriously impacted by automation, regardless of the minimal wage. One can see retailers encouraging more and more on-line business while stocking their brick and mortar stores less and less.
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