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Old 12-17-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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I always thought the answer was because it's the only amendment the subject of which can be used to massacre people. Then again, all those drive-by killings with free speech … mowing down of small children with the separation of church and state …perhaps we should rethink the matter after all.

Beat me to it.
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:20 PM
 
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Why is the second amendment the only amendment that you need to get a license for?

Because it's the one that deals with weapons that can be used to kill other human beings. Do you really need people to do this much thinking for you?
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:23 PM
 
Location: MS
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I think it means subject to oversight by elected officials, just like 18th century militias were.
Meaning of the phrase "well-regulated"

If you want a similar definition, look up the discussion of "regulate interstate commerce" in Federalist 42. Basically, when the states put up barriers to interstate commerce, only then can the feds step in and "regulate" it. By regulate, they mean bring down the impediments to commerce or make it regular.

Back then, regulate did not mean "control".
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: MS
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Why is the second amendment the only amendment that you need to get a license for?

Because it's the one that deals with weapons that can be used to kill other human beings. Do you really need people to do this much thinking for you?
Between 1787 and 1934, why were there no federal gun laws?
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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The Fifteenth Amendment lays out areas where the right to vote will not be infringed (ridding society of poll taxes, literacy tests and the like). The Twenty-Sixth Amendment deals with the voting age. And yet, you still need to register to vote, which acts as a "de-facto voting license". Not sure how the title of this thread is correct.
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:30 PM
 
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Meaning of the phrase "well-regulated"

If you want a similar definition, look up the discussion of "regulate interstate commerce" in Federalist 42. Basically, when the states put up barriers to interstate commerce, only then can the feds step in and "regulate" it. By regulate, they mean bring down the impediments to commerce or make it regular.

Back then, regulate did not mean "control".


The patronage of our commerce, of our merchants and sea men, has called for the appointment of consuls in foreign countries. It seems expedient to regulate by law the exercise of that jurisdiction and those functions which are permitted them, either by express convention or by a friendly indulgence, in the places of their residence

--George Washington, 8 December, 1790
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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Well, there you go!

With all the bleating about 'states rights' by conservatives, this is what they get.

It's a two-edged sword.
No it isn't. States' rights are always a good thing. There are no exceptions. It's like innocent until proven guilty is a good thing. The fact that it means some guilty people get off doesn't make innocent until proven guilty a bad thing. There will always be bad laws passed. That doesn't change the fact that having government control be closer to the people being governed is a good thing.
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Not what you think it means apparently. It means well practiced, well
disciplined, and well armed.


I think it means subject to oversight by elected officials, just like 18th
century militias were.
The 2nd was placed there as a protection against a standing army and the centralized federal gov't. That is why the founders put the 2A in the Bill of Rights..... Keeping that purpose in mind, does it make sense to say that the founders wanted centralized gov't officials to regulate the militias with they'd be at odds with?

Furthermore, does it make sense to theorize that the founders intended for the citizenry to be regulated in to having inferior weapons compared to those of the Federal Government?
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:46 PM
 
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The 2nd was placed there as a protection against a standing army and the centralized federal gov't. That is why the founders put the 2A in the Bill of Rights..... Keeping that purpose in mind, does it make sense to say that the founders wanted centralized gov't officials to regulate the militias with they'd be at odds with?

Furthermore, does it make sense to theorize that the founders intended for the citizenry to be regulated in to having inferior weapons compared to those of the Federal Government?

There was no intention of the Founders of having a standing federal army. The intention was that if necessary, state militias would be called up. "Well regulated" in that context did, indeed, infer an actual state militia organization. The amendment was to prevent the federal government from interfering with the state's power to create and manage its own militia...but there was definitely an expectation that the state was managing its own militia.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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Why is the second amendment the only amendment that you need to get a license for?

Because it's the one that deals with weapons that can be used to kill other human beings. Do you really need people to do this much thinking for you?
Anyone can kill with anything.

Everyone has a birthright to bear arms.
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