Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:31 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
20,460 posts, read 26,340,545 times
Reputation: 7627

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
No doubt that one day in the markets prove whatever point it is you want to make. Let's let it stop and then we will see. Some are saying that it is never going to end.

If you think about this, it's exactly the opposite of what is being claimed. The markets were told that the Fed will continue pumping 75 billion a month. The concerns were that they would end it. Why wouldn't the markets party on?
The same ignorant folks saying "it is never going to end" were the ones' saying the Fed wouldn't even pare it back - that the FED didn't DARE because it would crash the market and the economy.
Those folks were wrong about BOTH of those things - just as they are wrong about nearly everything ELSE they've claimed.

The winding down of QE has started. That process WILL continue. QE will be gradually pared down - probably by $10B/month at a time. It may take a year, it may take 2 years, but it WILL end - and guess what? It WON'T crash either the market OR the economy - for the simple reason that's QE has NOT been all that propelled both.

Ken
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:32 PM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,231,797 times
Reputation: 17209
Bernanke: Housing market is headed for a soft landing

USATODAY.com - Bernanke: Housing market is headed for a soft landing

"It is not the responsibility of the Federal Reserve – nor would it be appropriate – to protect lenders and investors from the consequences of their financial decisions."

Say What? 30 Ben Bernanke Quotes That Are So Stupid That You Won’t Know Whether To Laugh Or Cry

It's a good thing that those who were saying that Bernanke was wrong then were wrong, eh?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:33 PM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,231,797 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
The same ignorant folks saying "it is never going to end" were the ones' saying the Fed wouldn't even pare it back - that the FED didn't DARE because it would crash the market and the economy.
Those folks were wrong about BOTH of those things - just as they are wrong about nearly everything ELSE they've claimed.
Because if you say it happened on the internet, it must have happened.

Quote:
The winding down of QE has started. That process WILL continue. QE will be gradually pared down - probably by $10B/month at a time. It may take a year, it may take 2 years, but it WILL end - and guess what? It WON'T crash either the market OR the economy - for the simple reason that's QE has NOT been all that propelled both.

Ken
So why would the markets bail now? Bernanke said "Party on", why wouldn't the markets?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:37 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
20,460 posts, read 26,340,545 times
Reputation: 7627
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
Bernanke: Housing market is headed for a soft landing

USATODAY.com - Bernanke: Housing market is headed for a soft landing

"It is not the responsibility of the Federal Reserve – nor would it be appropriate – to protect lenders and investors from the consequences of their financial decisions."

Say What? 30 Ben Bernanke Quotes That Are So Stupid That You Won’t Know Whether To Laugh Or Cry

It's a good thing that those who were saying that Bernanke was wrong then were wrong, eh?
What's your point?

Ken
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:38 PM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,231,797 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
What's your point?

Ken
We are being led by a complete moron.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:39 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
20,460 posts, read 26,340,545 times
Reputation: 7627
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
Because if you say it happened on the internet, it must have happened.



So why would the markets bail now? Bernanke said "Party on", why wouldn't the markets?
Again, what's your point?
The wingnuts and goldbugs were DEAD WRONG about the affects of QE - just as they were DEAD WRONG that the economy is not recovering.

Ken
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:41 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
20,460 posts, read 26,340,545 times
Reputation: 7627
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
We are being led by a complete moron.
Better him than the wingnuts.

THEY would lead the country to disaster.
The steps being taken to bring about recovery are working.
It's a slow recovery, but it's still a recovery - and it WILL continue.
Considering the economic competition the US faces from overseas cheap labor, I'll take it.


Ken
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:42 PM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,231,797 times
Reputation: 17209
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
Again, what's your point?
The wingnuts and goldbugs were DEAD WRONG about the affects of QE - just as they were DEAD WRONG that the economy is not recovering.

Ken
Because you say so isn't impressing anyone.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,863 posts, read 46,654,236 times
Reputation: 18521
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordBalfor View Post
For years now, the wingnuts have been telling us how it was just the administrations' QE propping up the stock market

Well, the Fed announced today that they were starting scale back QE in January - and, the stock market shot up

They announced it, they didn't do it.

When the troph is about to run dry...
Last call...


What happened when they said they were going to ban scary black semi auto rifles?



Are you that short sighted?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:44 PM
 
11,768 posts, read 10,267,905 times
Reputation: 3444
Quote:
Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
Because if you say it happened on the internet, it must have happened.

So why would the markets bail now? Bernanke said "Party on", why wouldn't the markets?
If QE is propping up the market then less QE would lead to a lower market, not a higher one.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:28 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top