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Old 12-22-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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Climate change leads to weather extremes, and that's what we've been seeing.
You can howl and deny all you want, but them's the facts.
The climate always changes. But not due to AGW.

 
Old 12-22-2013, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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No it is not absurd, whether it's the military, EPA, FBI, <insert any alphabet agency here> they all attempt to expand the size of their role and funding. They do that by creating things to do and if you think science is immune from the politics of government funding you are being naive.
So perhaps you can explain how this affects the validity of their scientific research?

(Again, I refer you to bullet point #4 Claiming the Scientists Misrepresent Data for Increased Funding)

This is your argument, correct? In order for them to keep researching climate change and the scientific evidence that the earth is warming from our use of fossil fuels and the resultant pollution, they have to fudge the data, correct?

This would also be a global conspiracy, since scientists from every other country on earth remain almost universally in agreement with the consensus amongst American scientists, correct?

Which country takes the lead in fudging this scientific data, is it the United States, or some European socialist government?
 
Old 12-22-2013, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The country is burning up with all that GW......
And yet the GW cults keep on believing...amazing

2013 Will Finish One Of The Ten Coldest Years In US History, With The Largest Drop In Temperature | Real Science
Yes all those scientist cults at NASA, one cult probably still using divine rods.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 06:31 PM
 
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Yes all those scientist cults at NASA, one cult probably still using divine rods.
Not all of them...

Former NASA scientists dissent on global warming: ‘CO2 does not appear to be the throttle that controlled the temperature cycles of the last 700,000 years’

Is NASA Wrong About Global Warming? Ex-Employees Speak Out : Environment : Nature World News
 
Old 12-22-2013, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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In 30 years it will be interesting to look back on the sentiments expressed here and see who will be looked at as the frauds.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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In 30 years it will be interesting to look back on the sentiments expressed here and see who will be looked at as the frauds.
We already have 40+ years of climate fraud by the liberal freaks.

1970
Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age --- Washington Post, January 11, 1970
Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? --- Los Angeles Times, January 15, 1970
New Ice Age May Descend On Man --- Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970
Pollution Prospect A Chilling One --- Owosso Argus-Press, January 26, 1970
Pollution’s 2-way 'Freeze' On Society --- Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970
Cold Facts About Pollution --- The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970
Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports --- St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970
Pollution Called Ice Age Threat --- St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970
Dirt Will .Bring New Ice Age --- The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970

1971
Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground --- The Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971
U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming --- The Washington Post, July 9, 1971
Ice Age Around the Corner --- Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971
New Ice Age Coming – It’s Already Getting Colder --- Los Angeles Times, October 24, 1971
Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight --- The Day, November 1, 1971
Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age --- Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971

1972
Air pollution may cause ice age --- Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972
Scientist predicts new ice age --- Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972
British expert on Climate Change says Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere --- Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972
Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age --- Portsmouth Times, ‎September 11, 1972‎
New Ice Age Slipping Over North --- Press-Courier, September 11, 1972
Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North --- The Age, September 12, 1972
Weather To Get Colder --- Montreal Gazette, ‎September 12, 1972‎
British climate expert predicts new Ice Age --- The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972
Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age --- Los Angeles Times, September 24, 1972
Science: Another Ice Age? --- Time Magazine, November 13, 1972

1973
The Ice Age Cometh --- The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973
Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way --- The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973

1974
New evidence indicates ice age here --- Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974
Another Ice Age? --- Time Magazine, June 24, 1974
2 Scientists Think ‘Little’ Ice Age Near --- The Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974
Ice Age, worse food crisis seen --- The Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974
Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age --- Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974
Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says --- Beaver Country Times, ‎December 4, 1974‎
Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel --- The Telegraph, ‎December 5, 1974‎
More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster --- Daily Sentinel – ‎December 5, 1974‎
Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age --- Milwaukee Journal, December 5, 1974

1975
Climate Changes Called Ominous --- The New York Times, January 19, 1975
Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities --- Science News, March 1, 1975
B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon? --- The Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975
Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming --- Eugene Register-Guard, ‎March 2, 1975‎
Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade --- Youngstown Vindicator – ‎March 2, 1975‎
Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age? --- Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975
New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen --- Times Daily, ‎March 2, 1975‎
There’s Troublesome Weather Ahead --- Tri City Herald, ‎March 2, 1975‎
Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? --- The Robesonian, ‎March 3, 1975‎
The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate --- The Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975
The Cooling World --- Newsweek, April 28, 1975
Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead --- The New York Times, May 21, 1975 [PDF]
Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age --- Milwaukee Journal, December 11, 1975

1976
The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] --- Lowell Ponte, 1976

1977
Blizzard – What Happens if it Doesn’t Stop? [Book] --- George Stone, 1977
The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] --- The Impact Team, 1977
The Big Freeze --- Time Magazine, January 31, 1977
We Will Freeze in the Dark --- Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977

1978
The New Ice Age [Book] --- Henry Gilfond, 1978
Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead --- Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978
Winters Will Get Colder, ‘we’re Entering Little Ice Age’ --- Ellensburg Daily Record, January 10, 1978
Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder --- Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978
It’s Going To Get Colder --- Boca Raton News, ‎January 17, 1978‎
Believe new ice age is coming --- The Bryan Times, March 31, 1978
The Coming Ice Age --- In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978
An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears --- Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978

1979
A Choice of Catastrophes – The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] --- Isaac Asimov, 1979
Get Ready to Freeze --- Spokane Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979
New ice age almost upon us? --- The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979

Guess what? Liberal freaks were blaming the climate change during the 1970s entirely on humans, just like they are trying to do today. Naturally, the only solution they provided then for Global Cooling is the exact same solution they provide now for Global Warming - a vast expansion in the size and scope of government, and much fewer liberties for individuals.

Liberal freaks have been playing this same scam for more than a generation.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Not all of them...

Former NASA scientists dissent on global warming: ‘CO2 does not appear to be the throttle that controlled the temperature cycles of the last 700,000 years’

Is NASA Wrong About Global Warming? Ex-Employees Speak Out : Environment : Nature World News
Bullet Point #1 ..Using Contrarians as "Objective" Experts

You folks are just too easy....


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The government is overreacting to a largely unreal threat of global warming and NASA isn't helping, states a report issued by The Right Climate Stuff (TCRS) research team.
The Right Climate Stuff Research Team......LMAO.....
 
Old 12-22-2013, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Well, that is the denier's standard "argument". "It's cold outside this winter therefor there must be no climate change." They're willfully ignoring what the word average means.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 07:41 PM
 
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It was 75 degrees today in late Dec. up here in the NE (which I don't ever remember encountering growing up as a kid). Not sure where you get the idea that 2013 is one of the coldest in US history:

2013 May Tie for 4th Warmest Ever : Discovery News
 
Old 12-22-2013, 07:44 PM
 
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People like to believe in global warming because they can't understand that because they never remember something doesn't mean it never existed..
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