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Old 12-24-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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Churches do not make laws.
Sorry you don't like that religion has different views then what you want people to morph into.
Once you eliminate religion then your government becomes your "God" and it's legislation becomes your "Bible".

And I bet you don't even see that.
thanks to level headed minds, if it were up to the fundies they would
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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thanks to level headed minds, if it were up to the fundies they would
The constitution forbids it so there shouldn't ever be that concern.

Your problem isn't religion per say but the beliefs that religions profess.
You have already legislated "right" what religious beliefs say are "wrong".
And some laws try to force it …the abortion pill issue in Obamacare is an example.

The government and extremist groups need to stop trying to FORCE everyone to change their opinions and beliefs.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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The constitution forbids it so there shouldn't ever be that concern.

Your problem isn't religion per say but the beliefs that religions profess.
You have already legislated "right" what religious beliefs say are "wrong".
And some laws try to force it …the abortion pill issue in Obamacare is an example.

The government and extremist groups need to stop trying to FORCE everyone to change their opinions and beliefs.
Many Christian fundamentalists disagree with you
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Many Christian fundamentalists disagree with you
Doesn't matter what extremist groups say or think.

That's my point. We shouldn't be letting extremist groups speak for the masses.
And they think they do. We need to shut them down every time they open their mouths saying they represent "the people".

They don't.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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Once you eliminate religion then your government becomes your "God" and it's legislation becomes your "Bible".

And I bet you don't even see that.
Damn straight I don't.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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As a janitor in a union Machine shop there were many times during an 8 hour shift where this ridiculous union BS reared its ugly and inefficient head. I couldn't change a light bulb because the union says its maintenance job. A machine operator waiting for the next job cant pick up a broom and sweep the floor because that's the janitors job.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Damn straight I don't.
Oh but you do.

Religion says abortion is wrong..thou shalt not kill.
Secular says the government says it's legal and that life doesn't being until xxxx.

Both sides depend on a higher authority and a set of rules to live by.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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As a janitor in a union Machine shop there were many times during an 8 hour shift where this ridiculous union BS reared its ugly and inefficient head. I couldn't change a light bulb because the union says its maintenance job. A machine operator waiting for the next job cant pick up a broom and sweep the floor because that's the janitors job.
nobody forced you to take a union job, plenty of companies are non union, in fact most are non union, you almost have to go out of your way to get a union job
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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Why miss the point and argue meaningless red herrings. This is about union policy by laws and
their inefficient impact on production

not me


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nobody forced you to take a union job, plenty of companies are non union, in fact most are non union, you almost have to go out of your way to get a union job
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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Shoot, Harrier will use the coasters to mop up spilled beer so that the bartender doesn't have to.

Liberals ideas are really nutty.
Thats funny. Democrats do that too. I used to know a few guys who could get drunk picking up all the "empties" on the picnic tables at a very crowded state park.
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