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Old 12-28-2013, 04:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
there is no problem with getting money from the banks. i have no idea where in the world people come up with this stuff. The banks are full of money.

Is it a problem that the government's job czar closes factories here and opens them in china? Yes.

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Old 12-28-2013, 05:01 AM
 
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Banks are not full of money. They create it.

This thread is full of SOMETHING...
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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I am a Social Nationalist not a National Socialist. Jeez get it right please.Far as having someone to hate yep I do. I hate the entire system because none of it is doing what needs to be done to really truly help people. As far as getting others made at libertarians and republicans believe me the republicans/libertarians do that just fine every time they open their mouth or vote to cut services to the poor and unemployed. They don't need my help.I also stated I won't vote democrat either. I used to vote republican 99% of the time not any longer...let the crooked system collapse I want no part in it as it is now.
People who claim they want to "truly help people" if they were telling the truth would be saying they "truly want to help themselves to other peoples money"

Obama made sure I will never vote democrat.
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:17 PM
 
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I have a relative who went through all the tiers, stayed unemployed the maximum time, then when his last tier ended, he went out and got a job. He said it was a bit hard to get used to having to get up early again, and he couldn't head south and enjoy his winter on Florida beaches. It kind of sucks for him to be having to work again -- but -- that's life.
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Old 12-28-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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Someone being placed in debt is a topic up for discussion in itself, however, one gets credit if they are approved.

From the 2 charts I posted you can see there is a real issue there with the "little" guy and so-called money.
Those who do not qualify for what they are asking for are having a harder time getting money. That is the way it should be but it isn't because the money isn't there.
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Old 12-28-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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Having no idea of who I am or what my finances are or what situations I have had to deal with in 30 years - you can not presume nor should you that I'm able to retire and can work a lower paying job to supplement. In a perfect world maybe - but you are assuming things that you don't know to make a point, just like many others on this board.
Your line of work pays good money. If after 30 years you have nothing that is not a reason to extend unemployment benefits.
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Old 12-28-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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Well yeah, you won't work and prove that you are viable risk. I am not talking about those with no means to ever pay it back.
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Old 12-28-2013, 01:33 PM
 
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Those who do not qualify for what they are asking for are having a harder time getting money. That is the way it should be but it isn't because the money isn't there.
Qualifying is all that matters. You either get it or you don't. Those charts show the actual trends.

As to it being there. It isn't. Modern Money Mechanics is just one of many documents that shows how money is created.
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Old 12-28-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Test your knowledge!

How is new money created in the USA?
Answer - it isn't.
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What?

Art. 1, Sec. 8, USCON states that Congress has the power to coin money (stamp bullion) or borrow money. If it had the power to create money, why would it need to borrow it?
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Next question: How are new "dollar bills" authorized?
Answer - Title 12 USC Sec. 411 states that Congress has to borrow them, at interest, into existence. They're debt - notes - IOUs.
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Q: Didn't Congress borrow MORE than it paid in interest?
Answer - Yes.
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Last question : Doesn't borrowing at interest mean more "dollar bills" are needed to pay outstanding finance charges?

Answer - yes.

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Conclusion - Americans are stark raving mad, or idiots, or both.
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Old 12-28-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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Qualifying is all that matters. You either get it or you don't. Those charts show the actual trends.

As to it being there. It isn't. Modern Money Mechanics is just one of many documents that shows how money is created.
Car sales are at record highs. It's not because so many are paying cash.
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