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Old 12-26-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The GOP Is Terrified Obamacare Could Be a Success - The Daily Beast


Remember this meme from a few months back. The gist was that Tea Partiers and the GOP in general were scared to death that Pres. Obama's signature achievement would be a rip-roaring success. They could read the GOP's mind. The above particular retelling comes courtesy of one Jon Favreau, a speechwriter whom Pres. Obama has ironically referred to as his "mind reader."

Anyway just keep this meme in mind the next time a liberal claims to have a psychic power of some kind.

The Leonard Lopate Show: Are Republicans Afraid that Obamacare Will Work? - WNYC

Letter: Tea party is afraid Obamacare will work - Opinion - The Buffalo News

What Republicans Fear Most about Obamacare? That It Will Work - Long Island populist | Examiner.com
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Old 12-26-2013, 03:31 PM
 
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They are absoutly correct, that is why the teabaggers have been kicking the propaganda into overdrive with the ACA. Their biggest nightmare will be that it is a success.
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Old 12-26-2013, 03:32 PM
 
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Ok....so what about it? We're supposed to remember why? Your OP doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Old 12-26-2013, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I think it pretty clearly demonstrates 3 things:

1) the left believed Obamacare would be a rip-roaring success by now and were wrong;
2) the left believed it could read the minds of their political opponents and were wrong;
3) the left is a meme-driven crowd, and they struggle to think for themselves.
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Old 12-26-2013, 06:21 PM
 
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It is pretty much the SOLE weapon liberals have, is to tell you "the other guys intend to hurt you".

No liberal here argues policy. They argue that the people on the other side WANT TO HURT OTHERS. In other words, liberals all claim to have psychic powers, so they can read the minds of all their political opponents. They then use those powers to tell the world that deep down in the farthest reaches of the minds of non-leftists, lurks evil so hideous that if let loose, mass death and destruction and inhuman suffering would be unleashed upon the world in a tidal wave.

The ONLY response they have is "he's a very bad person", to EVERY criticism of policy.
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Old 12-26-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Wherever I happen to be at the moment
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I think it pretty clearly demonstrates 3 things:

1) the left believed Obamacare would be a rip-roaring success by now and were wrong;
2) the left believed it could read the minds of their political opponents and were wrong;
3) the left is a meme-driven crowd, and they struggle to think for themselves.

You missed:

4) "Meme" is a nonsensical term meaning nothing and should be banned from intelligent discourse.
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Old 12-26-2013, 07:00 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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It is pretty much the SOLE weapon liberals have, is to tell you "the other guys intend to hurt you".

No liberal here argues policy. They argue that the people on the other side WANT TO HURT OTHERS. In other words, liberals all claim to have psychic powers, so they can read the minds of all their political opponents. They then use those powers to tell the world that deep down in the farthest reaches of the minds of non-leftists, lurks evil so hideous that if let loose, mass death and destruction and inhuman suffering would be unleashed upon the world in a tidal wave.

The ONLY response they have is "he's a very bad person", to EVERY criticism of policy.
Lol. From the guy whose only response to every post about policy, ideas or facts is "I'm always right and you're wrong, the end."
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Old 12-26-2013, 07:01 PM
 
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I think there is a better chance of flying pigs crapping on my head than Obamacare being a success.
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Old 12-26-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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You missed:

4) "Meme" is a nonsensical term meaning nothing and should be banned from intelligent discourse.
I find 'meme' a very useful concept in understanding the formation of public opinion. To me it connotes an idea that is spread by sheer contagion/imitation, as opposed to analysis/persuasion.

How else do you explain 4 links from people all saying the same thing, and that thing was something that none of them could have possibly known short of psychic mind-reading ability? It was a classic meme. And of course if you google, you come up with many more than four who repeated the same thing several months ago.
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Old 12-27-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Personally, I get extremely tired of statements from either side (lib or con) claiming to speak for or as an authority of those whose views they claim to represent.

They present no method of verification of their "facts" in support of their statements except for cherry picked comments from highly partisan sources.

It appears that these folk are afraid to see what happens when people use their own logic and come to independent conclusions.

For these reasons (among others) I tend to promptly become skeptical claims of this nature, especially when made in association with a particular point of view of the individual making the claim.
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