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Old 12-31-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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India 168,367
China 19,850
Canada 7,999
Philippines 5,304
South Korea 4,579
United Kingdom 3,535
Mexico 3,047


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Old 12-31-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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Jobs that apparently no unemployed American wanted.
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Its a business all into itself to move skilled H1B cheap labor into the US. Just as cheap labor crosses our southern borders (not as organized H1B, no money in it), not to mention millions of American jobs farmed out to foreign communist nations who motivate their comrades to work for peanuts or else. True all American foreign policy off the backs of middle America. Just wait for the new so called "free trade" deal is rammed down our throats. We should not tolerate it anymore. And above all Tom Friedman can kiss my butt!
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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Jobs that apparently no unemployed American wanted.
A lot of H1B jobs are in IT, and there are skills with high demand and no supply of workers.
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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A lot of H1B jobs are in IT, and there are skills with high demand and no supply of workers.
Americans are not capable of learning IT?

Or is it that Americans don't want to learn it if it's only going to pay $30,000 a year while foreigners jump at the chance to work for $30,000 in the USA?
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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And those can be some very good immigrants who make the effort to learn and speak English -- but why are we paying so many billions out in unemployment?
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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A lot of H1B jobs are in IT, and there are skills with high demand and no supply of workers.
Winner winner, chicken dinner.

Been on the interviewing/hiring end of this for 15 years, and the simple fact is, it's hard to find homegrown American talent with the needed skill set for a lot of IT jobs, and not many companies are willing to take zero experience guy/gal and patiently wait while they develop into a skill set. Corporate America doesn't move that slow. So you seek people who have verifiable experience in the technology you want them to hit the ground running with. If I had to guess based on my own experience with 4 different employers...for every 20 resumes you get, 17-19 will be someone from Asia, be it India, China, Singapore, etc. Last American person I interviewed was for an Oracle DBA at my last job, and he was the least qualified of the 11 applicants we had for the job as well as the only American.

Now I am all about rah rah, go team and all that, but we also need to get junk done and cannot afford to carry someone with last decade's skill set while they read books and put us further behind. H1Bs come with experience, good English speaking skills and the skill set being sought. Believe, most companies would hire the citizen over the H1B if the citizen was applying, but they aren't, and when they are, it's the naturalized Indian or Chinese citizen.
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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Americans are not capable of learning IT?

Or is it that Americans don't want to learn it if it's only going to pay $30,000 a year while foreigners jump at the chance to work for $30,000 in the USA?
Americans are capable and willing to learn IT skills, but no one is willing to learn skills which became near obsolete 15 - 20 years ago. People want to learn new skills where the majority of jobs are. We need Indians to maintain the old COBOL, RPG etc applications, since no one studies those skills anymore. I am not making this up. I have worked in the field over 20 years, and people with those skills are hard to find.
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Winner winner, chicken dinner.

Been on the interviewing/hiring end of this for 15 years, and the simple fact is, it's hard to find homegrown American talent with the needed skill set for a lot of IT jobs, and not many companies are willing to take zero experience guy/gal and patiently wait while they develop into a skill set. Corporate America doesn't move that slow. So you seek people who have verifiable experience in the technology you want them to hit the ground running with. If I had to guess based on my own experience with 4 different employers...for every 20 resumes you get, 17-19 will be someone from Asia, be it India, China, Singapore, etc. Last American person I interviewed was for an Oracle DBA at my last job, and he was the least qualified of the 11 applicants we had for the job as well as the only American.

Now I am all about rah rah, go team and all that, but we also need to get junk done and cannot afford to carry someone with last decade's skill set while they read books and put us further behind. H1Bs come with experience, good English speaking skills and the skill set being sought. Believe, most companies would hire the citizen over the H1B if the citizen was applying, but they aren't, and when they are, it's the naturalized Indian or Chinese citizen.

You can refresh a skillset in two weeks by taking a class. Learning a new software "flavor of the month" is easy once you have a solid foundation of thinking logically and knowing software processes. I graduated college in 1986 with a skillset that included FORTRAN77, COBOL, RPGII, and BASIC. I have not had a problem getting any IT job that I have applied. I have not written a line of code in 20 years. Coders are entry-level IT jobs.
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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A lot of these people work at Microsoft in Washington. Do you think Microsoft would have been competitive with Sony and Nintendo with their Xbox and all the software if they hadnt imported engineers? We have done this in the past with aviation and the space program with lots of engineers from Britain and Germany after wwll. My brother worked at Intel for a while and felt like he was the only American in his building.
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