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Old 01-09-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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Not really. The folks who argue that income inequality is a problem have "all jobs should pay comparably/equally" as a foundation to their argument.
No they don't.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:01 AM
 
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No, an economy DOES have infinite income. There is not "x" amount of dollars available
There are, in fact, "X" amount of dollars available.

Just because we have trouble measuring precisely how many dollars are in circulation does not mean the amount is infinite.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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No they don't.
If that is the case, then they champion inequality.

Incomes relative to each other can exist in only two states - they are equal, or they are unequal.

So which do you support? Equal, or unequal? You can not logically favor both, as they are opposites and that is a logical contradiction.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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We can blame banks for causing inflation?
We can blame Congress for setting the monetary and finance policy that allows banks to cause inflation.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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There are, in fact, "X" amount of dollars available.

Just because we have trouble measuring precisely how many dollars are in circulation does not mean the amount is infinite.
An economy is not measured solely by the number of currency units within it. That is the M1-M2 money supply, not the entire economy. Also, the M1-M2 can and does change, daily. Please google "quantitative easing" to see how money supplies can arbitrarily increase.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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If that is the case, then they champion inequality.

Incomes relative to each other can exist in only two states - they are equal, or they are unequal.
No, that's like saying water must either be freezing or boiling, and nothing inbetween.

There are degrees of inequality, and they have been growing more severe.

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An economy is not measured solely by the number of currency units within it.
No, nobody said it was.

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Please google "quantitative easing" to see how money supplies can arbitrarily increase.
No, QE is not arbitrary.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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We can blame Congress for setting the monetary and finance policy that allows banks to cause inflation.
Congress doesn't set the monetary and financial policy of the United States. The Federal Reserve Bank system does that. They are independent of Congress.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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Congress doesn't set the monetary and financial policy of the United States.
Federal Reserve Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Federal Reserve Act (ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251, enacted December 23, 1913, 12 U.S.C. ch. 3) is an Act of Congress that created and set up the Federal Reserve System, the central banking system of the United States of America



http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section13.htm

^Here is the specific method of operation that congress authorized for the Federal Reserve Bank. It is illegal for the Fed to act outside these Congressionally-defined boundaries. Thus the Fed is not autonomous, it is a creation of Congress, and it is Congress that is responsible for its mandate.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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Federal Reserve Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Federal Reserve Act (ch. 6, 38 Stat. 251, enacted December 23, 1913, 12 U.S.C. ch. 3) is an Act of Congress that created and set up the Federal Reserve System, the central banking system of the United States of America



FRB: Federal Reserve Act: Section 13

^Here is the specific method of operation that congress authorized for the Federal Reserve Bank. It is illegal for the Fed to act outside these Congressionally-defined boundaries.
They set it up. Doesn't mean they control it, which Congress doesn't.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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They set it up. Doesn't mean they control it, which Congress doesn't.
I didn't say they control it. I said they set policy for it.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section13.htm

If you read the link .. which I've posted a second time .. you'll see how specific the law was written.

The Fed does not have autonomy when it comes to monetary policy. They operate within the bounds that Congress has set up. Congress is to blame for limiting the toolkit of the central bank.
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