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Old 01-18-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Can anyone show where public school budgets go down in proportion to the amount of vouchers?
Vouchers = welfare
Again Frank that was the proposal here in PA...
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Nobody. Can't you see that ?
The rest of us seem to have taken over parenting via our social institutions.
And if the kids fail..well we don't blame the parents or the kids. Instead the blame is placed on lack of more money.
What about when the school directors take off with the tax payers money and leave the kids high and dry? Is that the parents' responsibility because they sent their kids to such a school>
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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What about when the school directors take off with the tax payers money and leave the kids high and dry?
The state spent $3K per student for half a years schooling, that's far less than what they would of spent if they were in a public school. The state saved money.
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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Again Frank that was the proposal here in PA...
yes so you said.
To redistribute taxpayer money to a favored group- entitlement, welfare
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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yes so you said.
To redistribute taxpayer money to a favored group- entitlement, welfare
They are already getting that money Frank, the state pays X amount per student to the district. They were going to take that money and use it for the voucher instead.
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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Voucher- money taken from all taxpayers and given to a favored group for the purpose of education.
The same can be said of taxes in general.
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by FKD19124 View Post
Google Arlene Ackerman. She was paid 1 million dollars of tax payer money to leave the school district because
she was running it into the ground.

This Arlene Ackerman?

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In July 2000, Ackerman became the first female superintendent of San Francisco's Unified School District. She held that position until 2007. During her time, Dr. Ackerman positioned San Francisco Public schools as one of the five finalists for the 2005 Broad Prize for Urban Education, given annually to the best urban school district in the country. In spring 2005, California announced that for the second year in a row, San Francisco had the highest student achievement of any urban school system in California.
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All ethnicities and all groups of students including special education, gifted and English Language Learners (ELL) demonstrated gains on state mandated exams, and all students consistently scored above the state and national averages in reading and in math.[6] During her tenure in San Francisco, the city's public schools with, 62,000 students and 117 schools, attained five consecutive years of improved achievement for all groups of students while also holding the distinction as the highest performing large urban school district in the state of California during the last two years of her superintendence.[6] Ackerman won national acclaim for initiatives she implemented in San Francisco's schools,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlene_Ackerman_(educator)
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:52 AM
 
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This Arlene Ackerman?
You conveniently left out the part about Philly.
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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LOL, one instance hardly makes it a fact that "vouchers don't work." After all, plenty of public schools can grab that headline every day--and that's just in NY.
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Old 01-18-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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I would simply take them to court if broke the terms of the contract. Isn't that what most people do when they are ripped off with large amounts of money?
Actually no.. First people analize if there is money to be retrieved before they spend tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars suing.

In this instance, there was no money to be gained, they went bankrupt, lost their home, nothing left...
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