This is why vouchers for schools don't work. (brainwashing, propaganda, world)
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The private schools now have to teach what the government wants, or they revoke their license, just like home schooled students must learn what the government wants. The only way to remove government completely is to have people pay for their own kids and banish property school taxes..
And yes people should pay to educate their own children.
Frank, we have enough idiots in this country. We don't need more because they couldn't afford a basic education. If there is one social program I support it's education, how we go about that is completely other matter compared to how we are doing it now. It's imperative that we educate the kids of this country regardless of background and everyone needs to chip in for that. There isn't a single person in this country that doesn't benefit from an educated populace whether it's the worker you are hiring or one of your grandparents that got a leg up because of public education.
There are lots of ungraded and multigrade schools in the US. There's the old "country school" model, grades 1-8 or maybe even through 12, all in the same classroom.
But the students are NOT all learning the same thing, as they are in the many public (and even many private, be very picky) schools that assign kids to lock-step grade-level classes by no other criteria than age.
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A kid 5+ years above grade level is a little hard to imagine at any point other than high school, anyway.
Absolutely not. There are kids easily reading at the 6-8th grade level in 1st and 2nd grade. Explain how those kids get much of anything out of the 1st and 2nd grade curriculum.
I can appreciate the idea of having choice, but I think the voucher system falls short in some respects:
School vouchers don't address the problem of the overabundance of disengaged parents.
It isn't intended to.
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School vouchers don't provide the guarantee of an educational atmosphere tailored to student abilities, which may relegate such a program to being merely a means of 'shuffling the problem around.'
No there is no guarantee but there should be standards that a school must meet to continue getting voucher money.
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An increasing number of parents object to the mandatory religious indoctrination found in most private school environments; and the shifting of public funds to such organizations is a legitimate 1st Amendment concern.
It's only a problem if the government picks and chooses. If they provide vouchers to the local Catholic church but not the local Muslim church, then indeed there is a problem.
I support public schools. As I've noted all through this thread there are hundreds of public school systems doing a great job. For those that are failing we have to do something to allow the families of kids who want better have a way to do that. I would consider the idea of firing poor teachers and administrators but then you are going to have to neuter the unions to do that.
And this is where the left wingers who oppose vouchers get hypocritical.
We're told non stop that its governments job is to help those who are less fortunate and unable to get ahead, but when it comes to vouchers, the argument isnt that its governments job to help those less fortunate by giving them a helping hand up, but its the governments job to keep everyone else down..
Why on gods earth would ANYONE support keeping people down?
Because lower-income earners are the Democrats' biggest voting base.
Vouchers won't work unless the parents can get their kids there and pick them up which most can't do. I know a lot of you blame the teachers but honestly the parents are even more at fault.
Buses come and go from the Catholic school. The local Christian School has their own buses. They seemed to have worked the transportation issue out. That there are parents at fault is a part of the reason people want vouchers also. The parents that care want to get their kids out of the schools with a large percentage of parents that do not care.
And yes people should pay to educate their own children.
That many do not is a part of the problem. Many parents in the failing public schools are paying little to nothing and in many cases taking money from the system so they are not invested in their kids education.
There are thousands of Catholic schools in the country and you simply do not hear about nearly as many problems. When a parent is invested in the education of their child by spending thousands on top of the taxes they already pay they are going to stay on top of things. When they school does something they disagree with they are going to get involved. If there is a problem in the school they are going to get involved.
I do not think it's a coincidence that the problems are mainly in the inner cities where many of the parents have little to no financial investment in the schools.
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