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They have to meet the same academic standards as public schools.
SAT/ACT scores from students in private/charter schools are at or above public school scores.
These kids are getting into college.
The proof is there that they are meeting and exceeding the bar.
If these schools don't produce good scores then parents will pull their kids out.
Private schools have a lot more to lose by slacking.
Public schools cry about needing more money when slacking.
Vouchers clearly work... your example is something that sounds criminal....
not criminal, it was a failed business model. It sounds like government failed once again to do their job to make sure those they entered into business, could perform their contract..
Its more of a failure of government, than vouchers..
SAT/ACT scores from students in private/charter schools are at or above public school scores.
These kids are getting into college.
The proof is there that they are meeting and exceeding the bar.
yes but that could easily be because the parents are more involved, i.e. spending money out of pocket thus they make sure the kids are being educated, or that the school can pick and choose who to take.
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If these schools don't produce good scores then parents will pull their kids out.
Private schools have a lot more to lose by slacking.
Public schools cry about needing more money when slacking.
Agreed. Even if the private schools can pick and choose what students to take, and they take out the best students, this leaves the public schools in a position to better deal with the students left that "arent so smart"..
I understand why unions have a vested interested in keeping as many public students as possible, but I will never understand why parents want to hold other kids down who are lacking financial means to attend private schools, but capable of excelling. I'll further never understand why those who pay taxes, but dont have children oppose plans that reduce the tax liabilities, while producing better results..
yes but that could easily be because the parents are more involved, i.e. spending money out of pocket thus they make sure the kids are being educated, or that the school can pick and choose who to take.
Agreed. Even if the private schools can pick and choose what students to take, and they take out the best students, this leaves the public schools in a position to better deal with the students left that "arent so smart"..
I understand why unions have a vested interested in keeping as many public students as possible, but I will never understand why parents want to hold other kids down who are lacking financial means to attend private schools, but capable of excelling. I'll further never understand why those who pay taxes, but dont have children oppose plans that reduce the tax liabilities, while producing better results..
Propaganda and brainwashing.
Repeat something enough times and people come to believe it.
Teacher unions have nothing good to say about private/charter schools because it takes away $$$$ from them.
Frank one thing I think is imperative we do as a nation is educate our children but we need some major changes in how we do that. I don't see it as welfare and certainly vouchers are no different than public schools. You're paying for the student one way or the other. It's funny the OP mentions accountability because if there is one thing vouchers do is make the schools accountable to the parents.
As long as schools receiving vouchers are required to administer state-mandated tests to their students (under the same rigid testing conditions) and make the results public, I'm OK with vouchers.
we are already headed there.
Public school kids come out and don't know how to basic math, hand write or read a clock because
"the computer can do it for me". Now we have Obama forcing "Core" onto all schools which is another disaster in itself.
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You have people that don't even feed their kids with SNAP so we have to feed them in school.
And you think they will pay to educate them ?
The poor have 3x as many kids as middle class.
50% of all babies born in the US are on medicaid.
End government funded education and this nation will sink into 3rd world status in less than a decade.
Absolutely not. There are kids easily reading at the 6-8th grade level in 1st and 2nd grade. Explain how those kids get much of anything out of the 1st and 2nd grade curriculum.
First off you show me some stats that there are kids reading at the 6-8th grade level in 1st and 2nd grade, b/c frankly, I don't believe it. Certainly there are not very many kids doing that.
yes but that could easily be because the parents are more involved, i.e. spending money out of pocket thus they make sure the kids are being educated, or that the school can pick and choose who to take.
it also has to do with dicipline. Private schools are not bound to the stupid guidelines like the public schools are. If there is a disruptive student in the classroom, the kid is immediately removed unlike public schools where the teacher has to play psychiatrist and get the disruptive kid to behave taking time away from the other students.
I will never understand why parents want to hold other kids down who are lacking financial means to attend private schools, but capable of excelling.
I'll never understand that, either. And it's not just some parents insisting on holding kids down. It's the overwhelming preference of a certain political party to do so.
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