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Yes, contract law. Many union wages are directly tied to the minimum wage. But you knew that already, because it's been mentioned several times in this thread.
Shame most Americans aren't in unions, but you knew that already.
If you want to really raise the MW. Shut down the cheap labor coming across the border.
I totally agree, we need to go after those that hire cheap labor coming across the border. As long as there are people employing them without repercussions, then nothing is going to change.
So you think if the employees increase their productivity and work value, then that extra value should only be going to the employers? Then what's the point in employees improving their work value if their employer has no interest in rewarding them for the extra productivity?
The employee as an individual should get a raise if they increase their productivity and value to their employer based on merit, not a collective raise that they may not deserve mandated by the government.
You must be either blind or lying if you can't see that our jobs are going overseas ever since 1930. Before 1930, we were the manufacturing center of the world but now that's China which is poised to overtake us as the largest economy.
I am not saying the minimum wage increase is the only factor but certainly it is a factor, particularly in labor cost increase.
How much of a factor? Those manufacturing workers were getting well above minimum wage, though when those factory jobs moved away all that were left for many of them was minimum wage jobs.
Anyone working hard for $2 is free to seek easier work, more pay or both...any time they choose to do so. Thus, nobody is exploited because everyone chooses to work at the job they do for the wages they are paid. You cannot steal that which someone gives to you of their own free will.
And if everyone that hires at minimum wage only offered $2/hr and one isn't able to find work for more than that because the game is rigged against them, then what?
The employee as an individual should get a raise if they increase their productivity and value to their employer based on merit, not a collective raise that they may not deserve mandated by the government.
And what happens when the employer gives himself and the CEOs a raise from the increase in productivity and value, but the employees that created that increase did not see any increase in their pay, then what is your excuse then?
You must be either blind or lying if you can't see that our jobs are going overseas ever since 1930. Before 1930, we were the manufacturing center of the world but now that's China which is poised to overtake us as the largest economy.
I am not saying the minimum wage increase is the only factor but certainly it is a factor, particularly in labor cost increase.
Did the US unemployment rate stay higher than it had been before the minimum wage was created? Of course not. The idea that jobs wouldn't have went over seas without the minimum wage is straight up garbage thinking.
The minimum wage at various points hasn't increased for many years and it has done this multiple times. Did the overseas job transfers decline?
In fact the minimum wage when adjusted for inflation has been losing power, shouldn't this have slowed down the flow of jobs going overseas?
And if everyone that hires at minimum wage only offered $2/hr and one isn't able to find work for more than that because the game is rigged against them, then what?
Then we come and apply to work at your pizza shop, where you said you'd start the wages at $25 an hour..
Haha, talking to conservatives and libertarians is like trying to understand the dodo bird.
I know, they want to re try every thing. They write books justifying the internment of the Japanese(Michelle Malkin), that FDR extremely popular New Deal programs were a disaster(Amity Shales), these are things that have been settled by history by reality, but not in conservative land.
In conservative land maybe the internment of the Japanese wasn't wrong and based on racial hatred and maybe we should do the same to Muslim immigrants, this was the idea back when GWB was President, seriously.
You know when conservatives were openly advocating torture, indefinite detention, spying on Americans. They were also openly advocating racial/religious discrimination against muslims.
Maybe the great depression wasn't prolonged by government and fed inaction?
Maybe slavery would have ended without the civil war. Maybe Jim Crow would have ended without the civil rights bill.
To conservatives these are open debates.
And since they disagree with reality itself what's left but to just lie about stuff over and over again.
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