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Old 02-13-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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Hillary wasn't thrown under the bus. Obama's election team out campaigned Clinton's team. IMO the Clinton team assumed that she would not be significantly challenged, where as the Obama team from the beginning organized a 50 state campaign.
So who do you think was more experienced for the job, Hillary or Obama and explain in detail why?
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:13 PM
 
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So who do you think was more experienced for the job, Hillary or Obama and explain in detail why?
Neither.

Neither of them had any meaningful experience that you could point to and say "that will help them if they get elected president".

You've had 5+ years of seeing how Obama's paper-thin resume hasn't served him well. Do you really think that Monica Lewinsky's boyfriend's wife would fare much better?
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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So who do you think was more experienced for the job, Hillary or Obama and explain in detail why?
Both Hillary and Obama clearly proved to have better judgement than McCain when McCain selected Palin as his running mate.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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Both Hillary and Obama clearly proved to have better judgement than McCain when McCain selected Palin as his running mate.
You must of not comprehended my question. Here it is again:


So who do you think was more experienced for the job, Hillary or Obama and explain in detail why?
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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You must of not comprehended my question. Here it is again:


So who do you think was more experienced for the job, Hillary or Obama and explain in detail why?
I comprehended your question. What difference does it make?

When selecting a candidate to vote for the only thing that matters is the complete package vs the opposing candidate. Both Clinton and Obama were a better choice than McCain/Palin. Both Obama and Clinton are pretty close politically speaking. Clinton lost because she was out-campaigned, not because of her level of experience or her political positions vs Obama.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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So who do you think was more experienced for the job, Hillary or Obama and explain in detail why?
What's your point? Gerald Ford was more experienced at being president than Jimmy Carter and Carter won. Carter was more experienced than Reagan and Reagan won. Bush Sr. was more experienced than Bill Clinton and Clinton won.

Clearly, being the more experienced candidate does not mean you win the contest--whether it's a primary or general election. There are many factors.

Do you have a hypothesis about the 2008 primary?
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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1. There is no such thing as the "Democrat Party'.

2. Candidates are chosen by voters. I think one of the decisive factors was that Obama had been right abou Iraq and Clinton was wrong. This is coupled with the fact that she never acknowledged that she had been wrong in supporting Bush's invasion of Iraq, which provided no assurance that she would not make the same mistake in the future.

3. I saw them as being pretty close ideologically--very moderate, neither one as liberal as I would like. I thought Edwards, because he made fighting poverty the heart of his campaign, had a lot to offer. Obviously he also had at least one glaring flaw so it was good that he wasn't our nominee.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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Less experienced people get elected than others all the time. In the work place less experienced people get promoted. A lot of times people are promoted or elected on the basis of what people think they will be like in office. If you go back to the "experience" level their are a whole lot of people in this country who would elect someone who had been court-martialed and forced out of the service because he had "military experience" over a Harvard Graduate and Senator.

Why not ask why Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz is better qualified than HC?
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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You are exactly right. You claim Obama had charisma, I claim people did not want another Clinton right after Bush II.

I could no more prove my contention than you proved yours by your post.
It wasn't that claim I was disagreeing with, in fact I think there is some truth to your comment and I even alluded to some hard feelings the unions might have had as well.

Where I differed was when you said she bade her time like she intentionally tanked it or didn't try hard.
Perhaps we are just miscommunicating but she in no way didn't try her hardest and sat back for Obama.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:46 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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The "Democrat" Party.

In case you did not know it's "The Democratic Party.

The members are called Democrats.

Or didn't you know that?
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