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This is going to become problematic for Christian business owners. Just wait and see if gay activists don't seek out Christians for such services, then sue or force the business to close (as in the case with the wedding cake - I believe it was a test case and the business was selected for that). Gays are too much in everybody's faces pushing their agenda. It doesn't help their cause.
I couldn't agree with you more. This is how they plan to make Christianity irrelevant. They hate Christians, and they will continue to attack and bully them, just as they do on this forum.
The Spanish Inquisition was right?
The Salem Witch Trials were right?
The 30 Years War was right?
The troubles in Northern Ireland was/is right?
The Crusades were right?
Religion has nothing do with right and wrong.
It SHOULD have everything to do with right and wrong, but somehow it rarely seems to work out that way - rather it ends up being an excuse for one group of people to victimize another.
Religion has a TERRIBLE track record in regards to "determining right from wrong" - especially once it gets involved in the political/governmental arena.
The Bill was not about LGBT, that was just the catalyst for protest. Brewer vetoed it because the Bill allowed any business owner to avoid a lawsuit based on state anti-discrimination laws so long as they held a deep religious reason. Translation, you can refuse service by claiming you have a deep religious belief against dark skin people, or women who’s heads are not covered, a person with a confederate flag on their jacket, men with beards, women with beards, a person with a weapon, someone without a hoodie, and fat old white men who spend their whole life as professional politicians. This was not only a "gay" thing, it was an ‘open the floodgate’ thing.
Read the bill and show me where it has even one mention of gays, homosexuals, lesbian’s transgender... No, it doesn’t specify any person or group; it was not about who was refused, it is about the person doing the refusing ability to claim a deep held religious belief as the reason. In essence anyone could be legally denied service for pretty much any made up reason so long as the business claims it's based on their personal deep religious belief.
It SHOULD have everything to do with right and wrong, but somehow it rarely seems to work out that way - rather it ends up being an excuse for one group of people to victimize another.
Religion has a TERRIBLE track record in regards to "determining right from wrong" -
Ken
That's true - all the MORE reason why religion should "keep its' hands clean" and stay out of government.
Power corrupts - that's a simple fact - so if religion does not want to be corrupted, it should stay OUT of power struggles. Religion is at it's best when it stays out of the quest for power and instead focuses of charity and good works at the local and individual level. Once it gets big and starts dabbling in politics, it becomes just as dirty and corrupted as any secular government.
No it doesn't. Religion has no place in secular politics.
A mind of sound judgment and in proper working order determines right from wrong as well as a strong moral compass. I do not need religion, a book, or something that doesn't exist to help me or tell me that.
I'm sorry that you need such things to determine right from wrong.
No it doesn't. Religion has no place in secular politics.
A mind of sound judgment and in proper working order determines right from wrong as well as a strong moral compass. I do not need religion, a book, or something that doesn't exist to help me or tell me that.
I'm sorry that you need such things to determine right from wrong.
If there are no absolutes, then there are as many rights as there are wrongs, and it's a continually changing scene. That leads to nothing being right or wrong -- just what people make of it.
If there are no absolutes, then there are as many rights as there are wrongs, and it's a continually changing scene. That leads to nothing being right or wrong -- just what people make of it.
That's precisely what right and wrong is - what society makes it of it. Society is a lot more than just the religious bible thumpers shoving their lifestyles down everyone's throats and homosexual people coming out of the closet.
What's morally right here might be morally wrong in Japan, or Ukraine, or wherever else and vice verse.
The Spanish Inquisition was right?
The Salem Witch Trials were right?
The 30 Years War was right?
The troubles in Northern Ireland was/is right?
The Crusades were right?
Religion has nothing do with right and wrong.
It SHOULD have everything to do with right and wrong, but somehow it rarely seems to work out that way - rather it ends up being an excuse for one group of people to victimize another.
Religion has a TERRIBLE track record in regards to "determining right from wrong" - especially once it gets involved in the political/governmental arena.
Ken
You are giving examples of people using religion as a shield to justify their own personal desires for power and control over others
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