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Old 03-04-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Maybe these people think that since they are in a 'green' building, and saving the planet and all, that they can be wasteful of energy. Sort of like watching people who are told their food is low fat or reduced calorie, so they pig out, eating twice as much as they normally would.
Maybe it is just a piece of distorted, all-the-news-that's-print-to-fit selective journalism from the Washington Examiner. No! Couldn't be!
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:45 PM
 
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I am enjoying the push towards LED bulbs, I can afford to light my dwelling to a level that can be seen from space. Much better than the CFL's and should last longer that incandescent. I guess I can thank them for that little tidbit
very true, and as an added plus, if a LED bulb happens to break you dont have to go through a hazmat cleaning procedure to clean up the issue.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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""-The LEED model grades buildings on ideal conditions — the certification is based on “if everyone shuts their blinds, turns off their computers at the end of the day, makes sure the lights are off — but it doesn’t factor in how much energy is really used after it’s actually occupied,” Swearingen contended.

Read more: Report: DC's green-approved buildings using more energy | The Daily Caller "
This looks to be more the problem than the LEED certifications. If people don't utilize energy conserving behaviors, then energy consumption is inefficient.

Though anyone in architecture or have done architecture schooling knows that LEED is a pretty weak system to measure energy efficiency and green technology.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:47 PM
 
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This looks to be more the problem than the LEED certifications. If people don't utilize energy conserving behaviors, then energy consumption is inefficient.

Though anyone in architecture or have done architecture schooling knows that LEED is a pretty weak system to measure energy efficiency and green technology.
in the end, just using normal common sense ideas for saving energy is far more cost effective than the LEEDs program.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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in the end, just using normal common sense ideas for saving energy is far more cost effective than the LEEDs program.
Yes and No, there are things that you can do that go far beyond what LEED covers, but it requires the building and the users to be a part of the solution. But just being more energy conscious will go a long way for very cheap.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:03 PM
 
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Yes and No, there are things that you can do that go far beyond what LEED covers, but it requires the building and the users to be a part of the solution. But just being more energy conscious will go a long way for very cheap.
while true, at what cost as compared to the savings? how much did the LEEDs program cost? how much was saved? but lets go further, how much to install a new heating and cooling system, and what kind of energy savings is there over the old one? everything is a cost/benefit ratio. if one is replacing a system anyway, the cost part comes down to how much more for a more energy efficient system. for instance if replacing an air conditioning unit, the cost.benefit ratio changes dramatically as you only need consider the difference in price of the replacement unit compared to the more efficient unit.

and yes in the end energy savings still comes down to the humans that use the building.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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very true, and as an added plus, if a LED bulb happens to break you dont have to go through a hazmat cleaning procedure to clean up the issue.
Jokes on you cfl bulbs can be made without mercury. Also those long tube bulbs found in every office etc that have been around for decades contain far more mercury yet none of you people ever screamed about the mercury in them.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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The insanity marches.............on.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:11 PM
 
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Jokes on you cfl bulbs can be made without mercury. Also those long tube bulbs found in every office etc that have been around for decades contain far more mercury yet none of you people ever screamed about the mercury in them.
Go tell the EPA hero........or you eat one of our bulbs and see what happens.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Go tell the EPA hero........or you eat one of our bulbs and see what happens.
Why would someone want to eat light bulbs? How many incandescent light bulbs did you eat?
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