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If they are so smart, empathetic and emotional then why drown a baby in front of its mother just to eat out its tongue? Sounds a bit sadistic to me.
To an orca it is just lunch...Have you ever eaten veal? Do you know what veal is? Have you ever eaten eggs? Do you know what eggs are?
As humans are at the top of the land based food chain, orcas are at the very top of the oceans food chain and eat whatever they want, and that even includes white sharks.
If they are so smart, empathetic and emotional then why drown a baby in front of its mother just to eat out its tongue? Sounds a bit sadistic to me.
It seems that as knowledge of self becomes more advanced, the capacity for knowledge of other selves increases at a similar rate, as does emotional complexity. When a being starts developing a functional awareness of other selves, they begin to understand that the pain they are capable of feeling can be inflicted on others. If they are intelligent, self-aware and emotionally complex (humans, dolphins, orcas, non-human great apes, elephants, corvids, etc) the capacity for recreational violence, vengeful behavior and cruelty will always be there, because an extremely complex mind is capable of forming more complex concepts, such as associating violence with fun, needing to "get back" at another animal that wronged them in some way, and is also much more susceptible to damage and distortion than a simple mind. I wouldn't be surprised if other intelligent species had their own equivalents of sociopaths, especially mammals. Our brains are really not different in any fundamental way.
It only make sense then, to ban the keeping of any creature.
Regardless of how well you treat them, there would be some curtailing of their inherent tendencies.
Oh, hey, wait! We do that to our children too! Don't hit, don't pee whenever and wherever you feel like it, don't cry or scream when you're displeased, don't....don't....don't...........FREE THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!
How is the film one-sided? Sea World presents one side, the happy side, and the documentary presents the ugly side of captivity. Taking animals from their natural environment and try to change their natural behavior? It's like trying to change someone's DNA.
I would never disagree that you shouldn't take the single word of either side to make your decisions.
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How many tigers/lions attack their trainers? They get them when they are pups and they "train" them and these animals grow up and after years of being together, at one point the animal's natural instinct kicks in and attacks the trainer.
It's foolish to comment on a documentary that you didn't bother to watch.
As I said, I've watched parts of it. Lions and Tigers and Bears attack people in zoo's pretty regularly. Without zoo's though there would at some point not be any left to attack anyone.
I would never disagree that you shouldn't take the single word of either side to make your decisions.
As I said, I've watched parts of it. Lions and Tigers and Bears attack people in zoo's pretty regularly. Without zoo's though there would at some point not be any left to attack anyone.
Animals kept in zoos are not "trained" to perform tricks and thought of as "pets" and react to confinement and the limitations of their own animal instincts.
Animals kept in zoos are not "trained" to perform tricks and thought of as "pets" and react to confinement and the limitations of their own animal instincts.
Of course they do. A movie doesn't make an Orca different from a lion or chimpanzee or a giraffe. This is the problem with basing your opinion on a movie.
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How is the film one-sided? Sea World presents one side, the happy side, and the documentary presents the ugly side of captivity. Taking animals from their natural environment and try to change their natural behavior? It's like trying to change someone's DNA.
How many tigers/lions attack their trainers? They get them when they are pups and they "train" them and these animals grow up and after years of being together, at one point the animal's natural instinct kicks in and attacks the trainer.
It's foolish to comment on a documentary that you didn't bother to watch.
I watched the whole thing and its just sad.. it's all about money
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