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Old 03-13-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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Recoilless rifles have been around since the Korean War. They used to be standard US Army issue for quite awhile. Don't understand why we'd have to buy them from the Swedes today.
We're a civilized nation.
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The British Army used it in the Falklands War in 1982 and it has been used by British Forces since the 1970's.
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The article mentioned something that was curious. It said the enemy could attack our soldiers from a longer range than any of our weapons.
Does that mean the Taliban have the Carl Gustaf already? Or are they using Stingers or some equivalent with a longer range? Or do they have artillery? That mention left a lot unsaid.

I don't have any prelims with the announcement of the Carl Gustaf. The purpose of war is to force the opposing side into capitulation, not to kill. Many wars have begun and ended with no deaths; only a show of force and the willingness to use force was enough.
The use of siege is one of the oldest means of capitulation. Most sieges ended with a surrounded city just giving up with no bloodshed except for the mayor or some official. Many resulted in no deaths at all. The citizens just left, and let the besieging army to have the town.
They are using heavy machine guns which can easily outrange the M4, which is basically a 150 yard gun. The US military went to the .223 cartridge with it's limited range in 1963 because it made sense for jungle warfare. Short range, but lots of rounds. When we went to Afghanistan we did not adjust, even though any good rifleman knows the 3 T's: task, terrain, target.

Soldiers should have a range of options, from 9mm to .223 to .308 to .338 to .50 BMG. Not to mention innovations like 6.5 Grendel or 6.5 Creedmoor. But that all costs money. The Chinese have developed their 5.8 cartridge, and the Russians their AN-94 rifle. The US soldier is still stuck w/ 50 year old technology which has been further emasculated by sawing off the barrel to 14.5 inches.
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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No pun, just accuracy.
Maybe not a pun but darn fun!!!
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