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Whenever conservatives say this, they are projecting. Rich idle plutocrats, the republicon heroes, are the most worthless people imaginable.
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter
Employers shouldn't be in the business of providing healthcare anyway.
Their foreign competition sure as hell isn't.
Good point, the third-world employers don't have that burden nor do successful first-world countries like Germany. Health care is one thing that keeps American workers tied to a crappy job, now they are free to move. This new-found freedom is just another big unspoken reason the right wing hates Obamacare.
Imagine if the US government passed a law mandating that every restaurant in the nation give away a certain number of free meals per day. Then imagine that when the restaurant owners raised prices on other meals to cover the guaranteed losses, the government claimed it was an innocent bystander in the affair. How dare those greedy owners not want to give away free merchandise! We didn’t mandate they raise prices!
Or imagine if the government raised the minimum wage to $50 an hour, and then claimed the ensuing mass unemployment was the fault of greedy shop owners. After all, nothing in the minimum wage law mandates firing employees.
Obamacare was implemented because it was going to be an improvement. So where is this 'improvement'? Is the question too hard lefty? Obama twisted arms, lied to the American people and had the dems ram it through to his desk for signature. Why? It's worse than before iunless you can tell me how it's better. Typical lefty who lock-steps behind Obama in total darkness.
Why not ask the ones who have been denied insurance because of their existing health issues. Now they have insurance. What typical lefty and total darkness is that. The right has always ignored them.
Why not ask the ones who have been denied insurance because of their existing health issues. Now they have insurance. What typical lefty and total darkness is that. The right has always ignored them.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at the number of people who couldn't have cared less that people had no insurance prior to this year who now bemoan all of those poor people who have to modify their coverage.
Just further proof that the only time they show the least bit of empathy for their fellow citizens is when it reinforces their political agenda.
Why not ask the ones who have been denied insurance because of their existing health issues. Now they have insurance. What typical lefty and total darkness is that. The right has always ignored them.
* It's stupidity because the supporters of the old system could themselves be dropped by their own insurers.
* It's also phony because dishonest trolls without a life don't actually believe what they say.
* It's also childishness because a child is smug as long as things are going its way.
* It's also the Ayn Rand "Virtue Of Selfishness" doctrine adopted by our right wing including some in Congress.
John Kenneth Galbraith quote: The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
They found that moral justification in Ayn Rand. The Rand objectivist model for a human society is basically that of the animal herd where the strong survive and procreate while the weak die off - for the good of the whole. She has humanity divided into "the weak" who are basically useless "takers", and "the strong" who deserve to live and procreate. Sick people are obviously the weak, as are the poor who can't afford health care - "strength" and "worthiness" determined by current wealth. Inheritance babies, rejoice!
Now, haven't we heard this all over RW media? Why Do CEOs (Still) Love Ayn Rand? - CBS News
Check the list of right wingers who have openly adopted her doctrine. Not surprisingly, her supporters are largely rich or very-well-off conservatives.
Rush Limbaugh
Michael Savage
Paul Ryan
Rand Paul
More famous people in various walks of life, but our concern is those in our government. 7 politicians who praised Ayn Rand - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com
This is absolutely pertinent to the healthcare issue and it explains much of the right wing attitude and actions on that front. These people are legislating in our Congress, and many have allegiance to industry lobbyists. ?Make the money, make the laws: Congress has more millionaires than ever - report ? RT USA
Excerpt: Financial powers like Bank of America and JPMorgan Chase, among others, make up most of the top 10 congressional investments. Mutual funds and managed portfolios are also popular, based on good returns and the ability for members to avoid blatant conflicts of interest.
The point being, are Congresspeople now looking out for the people or for their own investments?
These are also people legislating on healthcare, food stamps, welfare, social security, medicare, tax breaks for the wealthy (their own portfolios), unemployment benefits, job outsourcing, you name it. With whom do they identify?
Astounding, the gross stupidity of the infantile RW mentality, since under the healthcare system they prefer, any one of them could be dropped on a whim at any moment - then listen to the whining start.
MY Health Insurance plan didn't change at all, my premium did go down a few bucks a week but it had nothing to do with ACA.
My employer did have to offer another plan which was lower cost but has higher deductible and a ten times increase in max yearly out of pocket.
Regarding these people that saw a drastic increase in their premiums, I'd like to see the policy comparison, are we talking apples and apples or apples and orangutans?
I am thinking a lot of these people never actually read their old insurance coverage details, I think a lot of things were NOT covered which are under ACA.
Again.. There is NO SUCH THING as Obamacare Insurance.
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