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Old 11-25-2008, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Charlotte area, NC
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Ron Paul told Giuliani why during the debates and was arrogantly "shot down", but he was right. The Saudi prince, I think it was, told Giuliani essentially the same thing right after 9/11 and he was "shot down" too.....The U.S. isn't hated "for our freedom" like Bush said (and was believed by the brain-dead majority in the U.S.) The U.S. is hated because the U.S. funds the people that are waging war on these other people! The U.S. is funding "terrorism" with money, weapons, equipment, etc.

George Washington, in his Farewell Address in September of 1796, admonished Americans to "avoid foreign entanglements" and that admonition should not be ignored especially today! But the U.S. government is literally "in bed" with AIPAC and therein lies the root cause of the hatred for this country and our citizenry! Go to your favorite search engine and investigate this for yourself!!

The politicians of today should read the entire Farewell Address, but they won't even read the Constitution!! In my opinion, if the politicians that we have had any guts, they would heed Washington's words, "...a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation."

It's not cowardice to do the right thing, but the politicians that seem to always get elected today are gutless. Washington, Jefferson and other great men that were instrumental in founding this nation, would roll over in their graves at the government that we have today.


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Old 11-25-2008, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Where the light shines
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Oh, Vietnam is our next subject. It's hard to keep up with you man!

I won't dignify that last bit with a response, lest I want to get an infraction from the moderators.
Man, did you ever live anywhere else besides in you head? Have you ever been to foreign countries and seen the way people live. Our people, the lowest, of our people, are better off than the top shelf of most other countries.
The greatest sign of a good and noble country is the people that are trying to get in -as opposed to people that are trying to leave? Are you aware of any mass exodus from this country? What is it you don't understand about that picture?
We spend more money on health eduacation, welfare, and housing than any country in the world by meganumbers. What do you think brought us to our present day financial straights. Free lunches ,-that is what!
You think it was the failing of hard working people who took it a step at a time.
It was people that thought it was too easy to pass up. American generocity in the form of the pure stupidity of the left wing may have just brought this country down around all our ears.
You think that because you see a BMW drive down the road with a sheen on it and a guy at the wheel with a suit on that you are seeing an image of evil. You are seeing an image of self eduacation and work ethic and a free society that makes it all happen.
Not to mention all the brave young men and women over the decades that made it all happen.
Yes sir, Russia has its Putins and we have ours. However, no spirit of self preservation or generocity exceeds the USA.
Under you and yours leadership it may soon be the USSA.
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:36 AM
 
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Americans don't care
Your completely right.
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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Ron Paul told Giuliani why during the debates and was arrogantly "shot down", but he was right. The Saudi prince, I think it was, told Giuliani essentially the same thing right after 9/11 and he was "shot down" too.....The U.S. isn't hated "for our freedom" like Bush said (and was believed by the brain-dead majority in the U.S.) The U.S. is hated because the U.S. funds the people that are waging war on these other people! The U.S. is funding "terrorism" with money, weapons, equipment, etc.
Who are we funding that is waging war on these people?

-The Saudi prince invited us to Saudi Arabia to protect them against Iraq. We had made a promise to leave after the job was done but the job stretched to 9 years because Saddam was still a threat to the Kurds.
That was Bin Ladens number one reason, in his words, for attacking the U.S.
Mohammed decreed that only one religion can exist on the Arabian Peninsula. Can't have dirty infidels in the most holy cities of Mecca and Medina.

-Another reason was perceived threats to Islam by America. Even though the U.S. demonstrably showed that it defended muslims more than it harmed them, Bin Laden was able to convince enough "brain dead" muslims that we did not.
The Kurds and the Saudis were both muslim peoples being threatened by a secular malevolent despot.

-America was in Bin Laden's and Zawahiri's way. They wanted to create Islamic regimes in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. When that didn't happen, due to American support and presence, they decided to draw America into a quagmire in Afghanistan, "Where empires go to die". Never mind that the U.S. is not an empire.
This was also against the explicit wishes of their host, Mullah Omar and The Taliban. Not exactly how a guest should behave, is it?

They simply needed America to get out of their way and the only way to do that was to end America's assistance of regimes that they wanted gone.
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