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Old 05-05-2014, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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SCOTUS has declined an appeal by gun rights activists, regarding New Jersey law that restricts the issuance of concealed carry permits, to those who can demonstrate a "justifiable need"

Supreme Court declines to review New Jersey

This bodes well for California, and all other states who don't want to see their cities turn into Dodge City. Yay for states rights!
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Old 05-05-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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SCOTUS has declined an appeal by gun rights activists, regarding New Jersey law that restricts the issuance of concealed carry permits:

Supreme Court declines to review New Jersey

This bodes well for California, and all other states who don't want to see their cities turn into Dodge City.
I thought you had to check your guns when in Dodge City.
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Old 05-05-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: NC
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Actually California recently lost a major a case and they will have to issue CCW's alot more freely than in the past.
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Old 05-05-2014, 11:51 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I thought you had to check your guns when in Dodge City.
You did.

The liberal gun-haters not only get their statistics wrong every time, but their history too.

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Old 05-05-2014, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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SCOTUS has declined an appeal by gun rights activists, regarding New Jersey law that restricts the issuance of concealed carry permits, to those who can demonstrate a "justifiable need"

Supreme Court declines to review New Jersey

This bodes well for California, and all other states who don't want to see their cities turn into Dodge City. Yay for states rights!

The 2nd amendment is a Federal Right. The "states" should have no say. Who determines "justifiable need"? Can citizens sue the state if they don't get 24/7 police protection when outside the home and are the victim of a crime?
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Old 05-05-2014, 11:57 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Actually California recently lost a major a case and they will have to issue CCW's alot more freely than in the past.
Yep. To many people's astonishment, the 9th Circus Court of Appeals decided (correctly) that San Diego's "may issue" laws were an unconstitutional violation of the 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms.

San Diego County gun law violates 2nd Amendment, appeals court rules - Los Angeles Times

The 9th Circus deciding that, is a lot like Barack Obama deciding that Obamacare is too expensive and too overbearing and should be repealed. But what can I say... even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The 2nd amendment is a Federal Right.
Actually it has always applied equally to the Fed govt, state govt, and local govt (unlike the 1st amendment, which applied only to the Fed until the 14th was ratified).
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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I thought you had to check your guns when in Dodge City.
I think that was true of most frontier towns.

I'm not trying to be provocative here, I'm just relieved. A panel of the 9th Circuit recently overturned California's restrictions on CCWs. The Sherrifs of the more conservative counties have indicated they will start "shall issue" policies, and are being flooded with apps for CCWs.

I don't care two much about Butte or Siskyou Co, but we're talking Orange and SD, with over 6 mil people!!!

The Heller case made it clear, guns in homes and businesses for defense cam not be restricted. But it looks like this conservative court isn't too keen to see the US turn into a nation of guys drawing on a false history and tradition, and walking around pretending they're Clint Eastwood, turning every little conflict with their fellow citizens into an ARMED conflict.

Like I said, encouraging.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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The 2nd amendment is a Federal Right. The "states" should have no say. Who determines "justifiable need"? Can citizens sue the state if they don't get 24/7 police protection when outside the home and are the victim of a crime?
Depends on what right the 2nd guarantees. Looks like SCOTUS thinks it stops short of 24/7 possession in public, absent a demonstrated need, beyond your perception of how much danger you think your in, walking around in public.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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Actually it has always applied equally to the Fed govt, state govt, and local govt (unlike the 1st amendment, which applied only to the Fed until the 14th was ratified).
Absolute nonsense. The 2nd Amendment wasn't incorporated (using the 14th) until 2010.
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