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Old 05-23-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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How much does it cost to make a hydrogen fuel cell??
Far more then the cost of current engines, and then you factor in how are you going to create the hydrogen?
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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No. Electric is the wave of the future.
Why? It is far more costly, uses fossil fuels(from the power plants the use them to create electricity) and is nothing more then a play toy of the rich, reduced ranges, and long charging times..

Natural gas and gasoline made from natural gas is very very very cheap.
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Far more then the cost of current engines, and then you factor in how are you going to create the hydrogen?
You indicated that hydrogen fuel cells take more energy to produce than it releases..
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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You indicated that hydrogen fuel cells take more energy to produce than it releases..
No, not the fuel cell, just the hydrogen it uses..
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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If it is I wouldn't be surprised if The GW lunatics find something to complain about.


Toyota embracing hydrogen fuel cells in place of EVs | Digital Trends
No doubt, they'll say that the increased water vapor in the air is turning gay people straight.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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If it is I wouldn't be surprised if The GW lunatics find something to complain about.


Toyota embracing hydrogen fuel cells in place of EVs | Digital Trends
Makes more since with hybrid technogies. 2 Motors come on?
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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Those old boys at Toyota don't mess around.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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The problem isn't the fuel cell per se. They'd work fine. It's sourcing the hydrogen. However there are fuel cells that can be made that take natgas as their feedstock, and process that into hydrogen on the fly. This may be viable. However it does nothing to eliminate the need for fossil fuels. The flip side is, I don't know if this is any more efficient than running a piston engine or turbine directly off of the natgas.
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Old 05-24-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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Far more then the cost of current engines, and then you factor in how are you going to create the hydrogen?
"In 1985, Dingel said, he drove his car from Metro Manila to Laguna over a distance of 167 kilometers consuming 15 liters of water and half a liter of gasoline. When he made a trip to the US, he added, he had occasion to show Americans that his car could make the Detroit-to-Florida run on 60 liters of water and two liters of gasoline. Government authorities have confirmed these claims in scientific tests and today Dingel drives a car with these words, in bold letters, painted on the rear windshield: “This car runs on water.”

History of Hydrogen Powered Cars | Fuel-Efficient-Vehicles.org
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Old 05-24-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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If it is I wouldn't be surprised if The GW lunatics find something to complain about.
Well, water is the most prevalent greenhouse gas in our atmosphere.
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