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Old 05-26-2014, 08:29 AM
 
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I took my business and family from metro NY to Virginia, which despite recent elections is still a functional state thanks to a Republican controlled legislature.

Schools are better too thanks to non-union teachers and cost much less due to consolidated districts and non-union teachers.

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Old 05-26-2014, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm still shocked that so many left California and moved to Texas.
Two politically extreme states yet they came and came and came and are still coming !
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The nj legislature keeps denying that this is true.
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Correlation versus causation. I haven't read the book, of course, and won't. But there is more to migration than tax considerations. Other factors that might be considered are weather, job opportunities, cost of living, perceived quality of life, and relatives. CA does not have inordinately high personal taxes. Corporations may leave for that reason, but people leave mostly for cost of living considerations.
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^Exactly! I don't think people are "fleeing" anywhere!
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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If people are too lazy, stupid, and unmotivated to plan and adjust their lives that they need to pack up and move to another state based primarily on tax rates I say 'good riddance'. Good luck to the folks of the states that get these dinosaurs. Not exactly innovators and/or critical thinkers you're getting for neighbors.
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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When Texas has 80 million people, will you guys be happy?
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Correlation versus causation. I haven't read the book, of course, and won't. But there is more to migration than tax considerations. Other factors that might be considered are weather, job opportunities, cost of living, perceived quality of life, and relatives. CA does not have inordinately high personal taxes. Corporations may leave for that reason, but people leave mostly for cost of living considerations.
Lots of families came from California. That's what was reported in the Austin area based on school attendance.
I imagine it's cheaper to raise a family in Texas than CA. Taxes do play a part in COL though and Texas has no state income tax.
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:15 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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If people are too lazy, stupid, and unmotivated to plan and adjust their lives that they need to pack up and move to another state based primarily on tax rates I say 'good riddance'. Good luck to the folks of the states that get these dinosaurs. Not exactly innovators and/or critical thinkers you're getting for neighbors.
That's quite humorous since it's basically the exact opposite of what actually takes place.

Take a look in places like the Houston forum for example, it's pages and pages of young, educated, single adults looking for advice on where to move and most are moving from high tax liberal run states like CA. The "dinosaurs" are staying in high tax states because they take advantage of the programs that those high taxes pay for.
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When Texas has 80 million people, will you guys be happy?
But they all settled in the same area..along the I-35 corridor.
Prices in the cities/towns there are sky high now. The RE is in a bubble, cities are taking on more debt to expand, etc.

And these are areas with water issues.

I hightailed it out of the Austin area a few years ago.
My property taxes had tripled and I was paying 7 different taxing entities and I wasn't even in the Austin city limits.
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