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Yeah, but for many of our "analysts" around here....when their only tool is their foreheard every problem looks like a nail.
It is a discussion board not a peer reviewed journal. People talk about interesting hypotheses here not write a dissertation.
No one asserts XYZ must be true either.
It is a discussion board not a peer reviewed journal. People talk about interesting hypotheses here not write a dissertation.
No one asserts XYZ must be true either.
Mostly that dig is aimed against people pushing some sort of political agenda like the red state\blue state idiocy or racists trying to link blacks to crime by ignoring variables like poverty.
To specifically address your starting post, you should show what the suicide rate was before and thus show the change.
Frankly, the premise is such a mess that it's probably not worth beating that dead horse to begin with.
Keep in mind that all this really proves is that people who have suffered from decades of poverty, tyranny, and economic collapse are more likely to commit suicide than people who have lived in functional societies all their lives.
Note that I don't say that as a support of communism - it is a system that clearly doesn't work in anything larger than about a family unit - but one has to look at what actually happened vs. what a political ideology would lead you to believe. For example, not one of the "communist" nations was ever communist. They were not classless societies, they all were led by dictators or puppet dictator who answered to somebody far more powerful, and they all had secret police, death camps, and other things that are not part of communism.
Long story short, this chart mostly indicates that wounds take many generations to heal, if ever, and it is possible for a nation and people to never fully recover from harm done to them in the past.
There are clearly cultural differences that predate the rise of communism. Suicide has always been condoned and very common in Russia, for instance. The crummy economic system and rampant alcoholism doesn't help much, obviously.
Mostly that dig is aimed against people pushing some sort of political agenda like the red state\blue state idiocy or racists trying to link blacks to crime by ignoring variables like poverty.
To specifically address your starting post, you should show what the suicide rate was before and thus show the change.
Frankly, the premise is such a mess that it's probably not worth beating that dead horse to begin with.
But you don't have evidence to argue against it either, which makes it an interesting topic, not a conclusion.
All studies start with such discussions.
My claim is simply countries with higher suicide rates were more likely to accept communism (no matter what the complicated reasons are behind). Now let me see how you disprove it.
For example, not one of the "communist" nations was ever communist. They were not classless societies, they all were led by dictators or puppet dictator who answered to somebody far more powerful, and they all had secret police, death camps, and other things that are not part of communism.
In fact only Americans call them "communist countries", with some negative connotation.
China etc. call themselves socialist countries till now. In their ideology, communism is the goal but has not been achieved.
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