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Old 05-17-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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My mother brainwashed me before I left high school. To her there was never anything good about a Democrat or bad about a Republican. Now she's 100 years old and her last vote was for McCain in 2008. In my opinion she was foolish. She's been on Medicare since she was 65 and she's been drawing social security since my dad died in 1999. Like so many people in the south she went to the polls and voted against her own interests.

I voted Republican for thirty years beginning in 1956 with a vote for Eisenhower. After three votes for Nixon the way he turned out caused me to blink. After Reagan's first term I saw through their scheme to create a Lord/Serf society in this country and because of that I'll never vote for them again. This is the reason:

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..............................ANNUAL INTEREST/NATIONAL DEBT............................
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.................................................. TOTAL DEBT.............................................. ....

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

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Old 05-17-2013, 01:24 PM
 
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My mother brainwashed me before I left high school. To her there was never anything good about a Democrat or bad about a Republican. Now she's 100 years old and her last vote was for McCain in 2008. In my opinion she was foolish. She's been on Medicare since she was 65 and she's been drawing social security since my dad died in 1999. Like so many people in the south she went to the polls and voted against her own interests.

I voted Republican for thirty years beginning in 1956 with a vote for Eisenhower. After three votes for Nixon the way he turned out caused me to blink. After Reagan's first term I saw through their scheme to create a Lord/Serf society in this country and because of that I'll never vote for them again. This is the reason:



..............................ANNUAL INTEREST/NATIONAL DEBT................................

[SIZE="4"]Total U S Debt[/SIZE]

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
And let me guess, you voted for lord/serfdom the last 2 times right? LMAO! What's the debt now? Do you even know? No blaming Bush either....
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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She knew it was un-American to expect someone else to support her, but was sure to get her share if the money was extracted from her paycheck against her wishes.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:27 PM
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Location: Florida
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Yes, many right-wingers willfully support policies that harm themselves, and basically harm the least fortunate while fostering the most fortunate. It's remarkably silly, but that's what drinking the GOP Kool-Aid does to some people - rips from them both elements of self-preservation and significant aspects of human decency.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Originally Posted by Finley01 View Post
My mother brainwashed me before I left high school. To her there was never anything good about a Democrat or bad about a Republican. Now she's 100 years old and her last vote was for McCain in 2008. In my opinion she was foolish. She's been on Medicare since she was 65 and she's been drawing social security since my dad died in 1999. Like so many people in the south she went to the polls and voted against her own interests.

I voted Republican for thirty years beginning in 1956 with a vote for Eisenhower. After three votes for Nixon the way he turned out caused me to blink. After Reagan's first term I saw through their scheme to create a Lord/Serf society in this country and because of that I'll never vote for them again. This is the reason:



..............................ANNUAL INTEREST/NATIONAL DEBT............................

.................................................. TOTAL DEBT.............................................. ....

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
Charts are pretty worthless except when someone thinks by printing them, people will take them at face value. Now, why was your mom crazy? She was getting SS, well guess what? So am I and since Obama has been Pres we have only had one decent COL increase. I am not complaining as much as saying voting Democrat would not have helped. As for medi-care, out costs keep going up and our out of the pocket costs increase. So what is your point? Yes, Dem were in power when both programs were passed, but they were programs that were going to pass, one way or the other. It was a matter of timing and wording. Just because a bill is passed by a particular party doesn't mean it wouldn't have passed anyway. Sometimes it is the wording that causes bills to die or too much added pork. We are seeing that, even with the amnesty bills.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:45 PM
 
Location: The South
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My mother brainwashed me before I left high school. To her there was never anything good about a Democrat or bad about a Republican. Now she's 100 years old and her last vote was for McCain in 2008. In my opinion she was foolish. She's been on Medicare since she was 65 and she's been drawing social security since my dad died in 1999. Like so many people in the south she went to the polls and voted against her own interests.

I voted Republican for thirty years beginning in 1956 with a vote for Eisenhower. After three votes for Nixon the way he turned out caused me to blink. After Reagan's first term I saw through their scheme to create a Lord/Serf society in this country and because of that I'll never vote for them again. This is the reason:



..............................ANNUAL INTEREST/NATIONAL DEBT............................

.................................................. TOTAL DEBT.............................................. ....

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
You got what you wanted, so you must be as happy as a pig in shxx.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
there was a PROJECTED BUDGET surplus

but there never was an actual surplus, where the debt went down

yes you can have a BUDGET (PROJECTED) suplus/deficit...but with a surplus, the debt will be paid DOWN, and will NOT increase...unless they .....SPENT the surplus, which makes it not a surplus


you make 60k..you currently have a debt of 15k......you budget 57k.. ...you have a projected surplus...which should go to the debt and lower the debt to 12k........................

.......but.....

emergencies come up.......washer/dryer........1k........transmission on the mommie mobile......2k............unexpected medical bill not covered by insurance....3k.............hmmm 6k total


now what do you have........60k income...budget of 57k...debt of 15k....new spending of 6k.......your 3k surplus, with a 3k pay down of your 15k down to 12k....just turned into a 3k defiict,,and 3k of additional debt...making your total debt now UP to 18k


sorry, but the PROJECTED surpluses of clinton/newt never happened...the debt never got paid, and the debt infact INCREASED


the simple fact is if there had been a surplus, then the debt would have gone down...it didn't


was the BUDGET ballanced.....yes

was there a PROJECTED SURPLUS.....yes

was there an actual surplus , once all in's and out's were counted.....NO

Fiscal
Year........ YearEnding.... ..National Debt........Annual budget Deficit

FY1994..... 09/30/1994.... $4.192749 trillion...... $281.26 billion
FY1995..... 09/29/1995.... $4.973982 trillion...... $281.23 billion
FY1996..... 09/30/1996.... $5.224810 trillion...... $250.83 billion
FY1997..... 09/30/1997.... $5.413146 trillion...... $188.34 billion
FY1998..... 09/30/1998.... $5.526193 trillion...... $113.05 billion
FY1999..... 09/30/1999.... $5.656270 trillion...... $130.08 billion
FY2000..... 09/29/2000.... $5.674178 trillion...... $17.91 billion
FY2001..... 09/28/2001.... $5.877463 trillion...... $133.29 billion
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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Those are pretty graphs, the multi color coloumns and rows are striking.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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She was getting SS, well guess what? So am I and since Obama has been Pres we have only had one decent COL increase.
So, you want the government to spend less on everyone else and more on you. Got it. And cut the deficit, while giving you more decent COL increases? Right.

Another right winger dependent on the government... You're getting what you're ENTITLED too, right? Unlike these other people.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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What southern state are you talking about? Most of them were staunchly Democrat until at least the mid-80's, when your mother was in her 70's. Was she really voting for the party of Lincoln in the 50's and 60's?
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