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Ted Cruz is a clown. I hope Santorum tries again, he gave me some laughs last time around.
Nope you want laughs you go with Bachmann, and add Palin, does not matter which goes for which office, I prefer Palin as Prez and Bachmann as VP, then I finally get to use my Moose and Squirrel label, I so missed out on that last time around, heck they could use that as the symbol.
This question is mainly meant for liberals. But obviously I can't stop conservatives from responding as well. Hopefully, they won't turn this into a Clinton-bashing thread.
To my fellow liberals, what does Hillary Clinton actually stand for? Al Gore is known for his efforts to deal with climate change. Elizabeth Warren is fighting for financial reform. Howard Dean, when he ran for the Democratic nomination in 2004, was running as the anti-war candidate. But what has Hillary Clinton actually championed? In 2008, she tried to distinguish herself from Barack Obama by claiming that she's a fighter. But what has she actually fought for? She's been on the national stage for more than 2 decades and I can't think of what her signature issue is. When she was First Lady, she tried to reform the health care system. As Senator, she voted for the Iraq War, a vote that probably cost her the nomination (an irony, since the vote was actually meant to help a future Presidential campaign). But can you name a single piece of legislation she put forth? She wasn't the head of any committee. She didn't negotiate a deal on any major bill. As Secretary of State, she logged more air miles than any of her predecessors. But what did she actually achieve during her tenure? And please, don't bring up Benghazi. I don't feel like entertaining conservative conspiracy theories about what happened there.
As a liberal, I struggle to come up with a convincing argument for why she should be President, other than the alternative (Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio) being too terrifying to contemplate. On paper, her resume sounds great. Senator, Secretary of State. I didn't include First Lady since being the spouse of a politician shouldn't count as experience. Take away her last name and her gender and what do you have left? A person who was Senator and Secretary of State, but didn't actually do anything noteworthy (other than voting for a war for the wrong reasons) during that time. I get no sense that she's passionate about anything, that she'll actually fight for anything. In all her interviews, she plays it safe, never taking a firm stand on anything, never saying anything that might cost her votes or offend potential donors. If she does address things like income inequality or gay rights or climate change, she pays them lip service. Never do I get the impression that she'll fight for any of these things. If elected, I suspect we'll get another Bill Clinton, a triangulating centrist Democrat who kisses up to Wall Street, embraces a hawkish foreign policy, and throws breadcrumbs to the liberal base. In other words, a moderate Republican.
She knows world politics in and out and is well respected by other countries and she has Bill to bounce things off of. She actually knows where the countries are not like a former pres didn't.
Nope you want laughs you go with Bachmann, and add Palin, does not matter which goes for which office, I prefer Palin as Prez and Bachmann as VP, then I finally get to use my Moose and Squirrel label, I so missed out on that last time around, heck they could use that as the symbol.
Michelle Bachmann is an embarrassment to Minnesota. She's like Joe McCarthy with a vag, and Joe was from Wisconsin. Remember that deal about her accusing a staffer of being a terrorist just because she was Muslim? I never liked Bachmann's district anyways..
]Ted Cruz is a clown. I hope Santorum tries again, he gave me some laughs last time around.
Nope you want laughs you go with Bachmann, and add Palin, does not matter which goes for which office, I prefer Palin as Prez and Bachmann as VP, then I finally get to use my Moose and Squirrel label, I so missed out on that last time around, heck they could use that as the symbol.
OP asks for insight/analysis of Hillary Clinton, and liberal posters seem to have a tough time answering, instead defaulting to their favorite parlor game of 3rd grade name-calling against R's. I think this speaks volumes.
Michelle Bachmann is an embarrassment to Minnesota. She's like Joe McCarthy with a vag, and Joe was from Wisconsin. Remember that deal about her accusing a staffer of being a terrorist just because she was Muslim? I never liked Bachmann's district anyways..
OP asks for insight/analysis of Hillary Clinton, and liberal posters seem to have a tough time answering, instead defaulting to their favorite parlor game of 3rd grade name-calling against R's. I think this speaks volumes.
You silly, I said I would Never support her unless Cruz was her opponent, (the only current candidate worse for the Nation IMO). Maybe you should try paying closer attention to what I post instead of see my name and over reacting I was just having fun at the expense of Moose and her side kick Squirrel while I could they are always such a hoot, the laughs never stop coming.
She knows world politics in and out and is well respected by other countries and she has Bill to bounce things off of. She actually knows where the countries are not like a former pres didn't.
So? Is this a reason to elect her as President?
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Originally Posted by wutitiz
OP asks for insight/analysis of Hillary Clinton, and liberal posters seem to have a tough time answering, instead defaulting to their favorite parlor game of 3rd grade name-calling against R's. I think this speaks volumes.
No, what speaks volumes is that conservatives, as expected, can't stick to the topic and instead of trod out names of Republicans they'd rather see as President.
This question is mainly meant for liberals. But obviously I can't stop conservatives from responding as well. Hopefully, they won't turn this into a Clinton-bashing thread.
To my fellow liberals, what does Hillary Clinton actually stand for? Al Gore is known for his efforts to deal with climate change. Elizabeth Warren is fighting for financial reform. Howard Dean, when he ran for the Democratic nomination in 2004, was running as the anti-war candidate. But what has Hillary Clinton actually championed? In 2008, she tried to distinguish herself from Barack Obama by claiming that she's a fighter. But what has she actually fought for? She's been on the national stage for more than 2 decades and I can't think of what her signature issue is. When she was First Lady, she tried to reform the health care system. As Senator, she voted for the Iraq War, a vote that probably cost her the nomination (an irony, since the vote was actually meant to help a future Presidential campaign). But can you name a single piece of legislation she put forth? She wasn't the head of any committee. She didn't negotiate a deal on any major bill. As Secretary of State, she logged more air miles than any of her predecessors. But what did she actually achieve during her tenure? And please, don't bring up Benghazi. I don't feel like entertaining conservative conspiracy theories about what happened there.
As a liberal, I struggle to come up with a convincing argument for why she should be President, other than the alternative (Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio) being too terrifying to contemplate. On paper, her resume sounds great. Senator, Secretary of State. I didn't include First Lady since being the spouse of a politician shouldn't count as experience. Take away her last name and her gender and what do you have left? A person who was Senator and Secretary of State, but didn't actually do anything noteworthy (other than voting for a war for the wrong reasons) during that time. I get no sense that she's passionate about anything, that she'll actually fight for anything. In all her interviews, she plays it safe, never taking a firm stand on anything, never saying anything that might cost her votes or offend potential donors. If she does address things like income inequality or gay rights or climate change, she pays them lip service. Never do I get the impression that she'll fight for any of these things. If elected, I suspect we'll get another Bill Clinton, a triangulating centrist Democrat who kisses up to Wall Street, embraces a hawkish foreign policy, and throws breadcrumbs to the liberal base. In other words, a moderate Republican.
She's not declared her presidency and has not made out a platform. What does Ted Cruz stand for? Rick Perry? Rand Paul?
No, what speaks volumes is that conservatives, as expected, can't stick to the topic and instead of trod out names of Republicans they'd rather see as President.
Well, let's recap this thread to date:
Post 1: what does Hilary stand for?
Post 2; Hilarys a fascist
Post 3: No she's not and here's a graph to prove it
Post 4: You're right - she's not a fascist. She just hates America
Post 5: Slam on those who love their country
Post 6: Sacastic apology for loving his country
Post 7: I'll only support her if Cruz gets the nom
Post 8: Cruz is a clown and so is Santorum
Post 9: GOP better find somebody good or we'll end up in FEMA camps
Post 10: She's just another politician financing banks and the war machine
Post 11: If Palin and Bachman won I could use my Rocky and Bullwinkle picture
Post 12: She traveled a lot and could use her husband for advice
Post 13: Bachman is an embarassement to Minnesota
Post 14; The OP asked for thoughts on Clinton and Dems are just name calling R's
Post 15: Bachman is a laugh a minute
Post 16: Stop deliberately misunderstanding my previous post
Post 17: She traveled a lot! So??..........which brings us back to the quote above.
Not staying on topic is what we DO here.
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. Remember that deal about her accusing a staffer of being a terrorist just because she was Muslim? I never liked Bachmann's district anyways..
I was just having fun at the expense of Moose and her side kick Squirrel while I could they are always such a hoot, the laughs never stop coming.
Question For Liberals: What Does Hillary Clinton Stand For?
