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did you even watch the movie? russia teamed up with cuba, mexico, and other southern north american countries, that is what gave them the avenue to invade the US, and it also shortened up their supply lines as well since they had a country to use as a base for the initial invasion.
Oh right sort of like how Poland teamed up with the Jews to invade Nazi Germany.
did you even watch the movie? russia teamed up with cuba, mexico, and other southern north american countries, that is what gave them the avenue to invade the US, and it also shortened up their supply lines as well since they had a country to use as a base for the initial invasion.
That's what makes it preposterous. The Lame-stream Media is fond of propagandizing and calling everything an "army."
All armies are defense forces, but not all defense forces are armies.
Defense forces are limited to operations within their own borders. They might be able to pursue across the border into another State; perhaps even conduct punitive raids on neighboring States; and they may even be able to conduct offensive operations for a limited period of time in an adjacent State, but that's the extent of their capabilities.
The only armies south of the border are Brasil and Argentina. Both have the capability to conduct sustained offensive operations regionally....but not globally.
Even more preposterous is that we are to believe that the US did absolutely nothing for 3-5 years while the Soviets built cargo ships to transport supplies across the Pacific Ocean to forward operating supply depots.
And then it would take 2-3 years to actually ship the supplies, plus another 4-5 years to transport -- what did the film say? 60 divisions? ---- and then another 1-3 years to stock-pile supplies for Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua et al, since none of them have the money or resourced to help.
The US has some of the fastest supply ships on Earth. The RO-ROs are great for vehicles as well. And look how long it took the US to stock-pile supplies in Saudi Arabia for Desert Storm.
The whole point of the film was the Red Menace in Central America and how the US should constantly illegally over-throw those governments, lest Chiquita and National Sugar be forced to pay taxes to those governments.
100% of profits flow from Central America to the US...specifically to shareholders and to the US government. The shareholders then have additional cash/credit Capital to create new businesses in the US to grow the economy and create jobs, and the government has more money to spend -- ostensibly to also grow the economy and create jobs.
Logistically...
That's what makes it preposterous. The Lame-stream Media is fond of propagandizing and calling everything an "army."
All armies are defense forces, but not all defense forces are armies.
Defense forces are limited to operations within their own borders. They might be able to pursue across the border into another State; perhaps even conduct punitive raids on neighboring States; and they may even be able to conduct offensive operations for a limited period of time in an adjacent State, but that's the extent of their capabilities.
The only armies south of the border are Brasil and Argentina. Both have the capability to conduct sustained offensive operations regionally....but not globally.
Even more preposterous is that we are to believe that the US did absolutely nothing for 3-5 years while the Soviets built cargo ships to transport supplies across the Pacific Ocean to forward operating supply depots.
And then it would take 2-3 years to actually ship the supplies, plus another 4-5 years to transport -- what did the film say? 60 divisions? ---- and then another 1-3 years to stock-pile supplies for Cuba, Mexico, Nicaragua et al, since none of them have the money or resourced to help.
The US has some of the fastest supply ships on Earth. The RO-ROs are great for vehicles as well. And look how long it took the US to stock-pile supplies in Saudi Arabia for Desert Storm.
The whole point of the film was the Red Menace in Central America and how the US should constantly illegally over-throw those governments, lest Chiquita and National Sugar be forced to pay taxes to those governments.
100% of profits flow from Central America to the US...specifically to shareholders and to the US government. The shareholders then have additional cash/credit Capital to create new businesses in the US to grow the economy and create jobs, and the government has more money to spend -- ostensibly to also grow the economy and create jobs.
Logistically...
Mircea
now tell me something i dont know my friend. as i have said many times before, the only country in the world that has the airlift and transport capability to invade the US, is the US. we could invade cina or russia, and be relatively secure in knowing that our supply lines, though long, would be less likely to be cut long term. i dont think that even if russia and china teamed up that they could invade the US and have reliable supply lines.
but again we are talking about a movie here, not reality, but there are ways to get supplies into countries where you might want to use to stage an invasion without others being suspicious that you might be planning such a move, but as you notes it does take some very long term thinking, and some out of the box choices to moving troops around the world.
....Or they could just flood across our borders for years lying in wait to go active...or in a less dramatic fashion...use their own political numbers to affect our laws until the US is no more....seems plausible!
How a Red Dawn situation could even happen in the first place is beyond me.
There's an industry term for that: "IITS" - It's In The Script.
Sometimes you just gotta roll with it. It's for the same reason paratroopers waste time and ammunition on firing on a high school in East Possumf.ck instead of organizing and heading off to whichever objective they're there to secure.
Well, being that I worked with them for years I do know their many strengths and weaknesses, you act as if tanks cannot be taken on, that simply shows your ignorance on the topic. In some situations tanks are hard to deal with, especially in mass, in other situations tanks are no more than rolling coffins, if you really knew anything about the combat arms of the Army you would know these simple facts.
All I know is you think you can take out a tank better than some guy running around with a gun. Good luck.
No one has said any such thing, the obvious fight is between infantry, but you act as if tanks cannot be taken on, I suppose your answer ever time a tank showed up would be to run away.
The title of the thread is about a RED DAWN scenario....the RED DAWN premise is an invasion by foreign countries and average citizens filling in the gaps in areas where the US military has been ineffective temporarily.
Just so you know, because the military is temporarily out of the picture does not mean the many military depots are gone, meaning people would be able to get their hands on better weapons that most civilians have.
Originally Posted by Cyborgt800
The title of the thread is about a RED DAWN scenario....the RED DAWN premise is an invasion by foreign countries and average citizens filling in the gaps in areas where the US military has been ineffective temporarily.
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Just so you know, because the military is temporarily out of the picture does not mean the many military depots are gone, meaning people would be able to get their hands on better weapons that most civilians have.
I'm not seeing what your comment has to do with mine...
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