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Do you call using the dogs to scare the prisoners torture also?
It's certainly borderline, but probably no. No physical violation, no triggering of those of the body's systems that fire up to let the brain know that death is imminent. That's what waterboarding is, you know - simulated execution by drowning. It's very effective, people will say anything to get out of it.
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Nobody is talking about an electrode up the vagina or up the ass.
I thought the definition was "It involves physical or mental abuse that leaves lasting scars." Just pointing out that by your and Joseph Farah's standards (and you are welcome to them), electroshock to the genitals wouldn't be torture.
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Do U.S. do that to the prisoners? sheesh
Why the disgusted reaction? No lasting scars, remember? Can't possibly be torture, then.
Why is torture wrong? Do you think our enemies care that torture is considered "wrong?" Of course not. That's why you can never, ever listen to a liberal talk down to you on issues of morality. They're so blinded by partisanship and a hatred for George W. Bush that a lecture from liberals on torture is like listening to Larry Flynt tell you that porn is bad for you.
So if the guy down the street is a theif that justifies your being one too? How about a murderer? Or a rapist? Or a child molester? i guess your parents never corrected you when you used the excuse "well Johnny did it".
It's certainly borderline, but probably no. No physical violation, no triggering of those of the body's systems that fire up to let the brain know that death is imminent. That's what waterboarding is, you know - simulated execution by drowning. It's very effective, people will say anything to get out of it.
I thought the definition was "It involves physical or mental abuse that leaves lasting scars." Just pointing out that by your and Joseph Farah's standards (and you are welcome to them), electroshock to the genitals wouldn't be torture.
Why the disgusted reaction? No lasting scars, remember? Can't possibly be torture, then.
No!! Water boarding has been used to train special force guys, if these guys can tolerate it just fine, then the detainees can take it. You said it yourself, "It is very effective, people will say anything to get out of it."
And they don't have permanent injury and they stay alive. I don't believe they will say anything at all if they are treated like a VIP guest in the five star hotel.
So if the guy down the street is a theif that justifies your being one too? How about a murderer? Or a rapist? Or a child molester? i guess your parents never corrected you when you used the excuse "well Johnny did it".
and he should tell his teenage female high school relatives "Do every single thing the other girls do". "No exceptions".
Histroically, torture is very effective to get people to say anything. Anything at all, actually. People confess the craziest sh.t to make it stop.
As they would with an electrode to the genitals. Hey, we could break a few limbs - with proper medical care, that's just temporary.
Who suggested that, beyond that rather impressive strawman you just constructed?
OH whatever. You call water boarding torture I don't. That is it.
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