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Yeah, if only they knew their place and didn't call attention to being treated as second class citizens!
I am truly baffled by so called conservatives saying that business shouldn't face the consequences of refusing service to someone in a town where that is clearly not acceptable behavior. The shop owners can legally discriminate against someone for their sexual orientation in PA. The good people of Bloomsburg are saying that's not acceptable and are taking their business to another bridal shop. it's the free market at work but yet "conservatives" are all worked up about it.
I am a conservative.....I feel it is fair both ways.
We are not talking about Beliefs, we are talking about a Business, only someone that is totally delusional would believe a Business can have Beliefs
Those 5 judges who ruled in Hobby Lobby's favor are, of course, delusional.
The owners of businesses can have religious, moral, social beliefs reflected in how they operate their business. Maybe you don't have beliefs that supersede money or your number 1 belief is serve everyone.
If people "walking through our doors" do not see that sign of "no service," then many customers may be ignorant to the proprietor's bigoted business practices, eh?
Not when they refuse service and those refused take their issue to social media. Customers won't remain ignorant for long. Many businesses rely on word of mouth. That can be a double edged sword.
I'm sure every business has customers whose views they disagree with. Generally speaking, you don't inquire about their views and their views aren't offered. I don't know what business you're in, but if you're the imaginary printer asked to print fund raising invited for a group whose views you strongly opposed, you at least agree [I think] you should legally be allowed to refuse.
Though you wouldn't be endorsing the group's views, you would be assisting their activities and promotion of their views.
Only if I were the last printer on earth. My compliance or refusal is not going to make the slightest bit of difference, as they'll get it printed somewhere. And as far as that goes - I don't see myself as everyone's arbiter of virtue. If I'm a printer I'm in the business of printing. People have the freedom to print something I might find distasteful, I'm not their Priest or their mother. As long as it's not illegal content it's not my business what it is I'm printing. Printing does not have a POV, it's a process not a dogma. And I'm not going to contribute to their fundraiser. That's where I take my personal stand.
Having said that, of course it shouldn't be illegal to not comply if you don't want to. If you want to compromise your business and all that that entails then that's your business.
However this is apples and cantaloupes to refusing service based on inherent characteristics of a particular human being, such as race. Which should absolutely be illegal.
Those 5 judges who ruled in Hobby Lobby's favor are, of course, delusional.
The owners of businesses can have religious, moral, social beliefs reflected in how they operate their business. Maybe you don't have beliefs that supersede money or your number 1 belief is serve everyone.
I already said that, and what some have warned would be the result of that ruling are already starting to come about, you people opened Pandora's box and one day when you realize what you have done you will not be able to put the evil back in. Think of this way if a large business is own by a Satanist or Atheist they can now impose whatever rules they want and deny whatever they want in healthcare after all they are also protected. You will learn that lesson the hard way, Enjoy
Wrong again, you have the right to believe anything you want, a business is not a person nor can it have beliefs, true a business must abide by the law but as for the rest it does not have to do any such thing.
Why do they have Christian book stores or Jewish deli's if this is not true?
Silly, one sells books that have Christian content, it could change to be one that sells Occult content next week. A Jewish deli sells deli food, not really as Jewish as you may think, but that is another argument, they could be selling Tacos tomorrow. They are simply products, nothing more.
Printing is a bit different because speech is not protected in private transactions.
Not serving someone because they are white is discrimination and wrong.
Not printing flyers for a white nationalist rally is not discrimination and is the decent thing to do.
Not making a cake for someone because they are gay is discrimination and wrong.
Not making a cake because the gay customer wants explicit words written words all over it is not discrimination.
It is wrong for you because you believe homosexuality is not wrong. I do not get why people think that just because them and some other people believe in homosexuality that is automatically means it is right. There was a time when a lot of people believed that white people and colored people should be separated that does not mean it was right. If a known KKK member walks into a barbershop owned by a black men should the KKK member be helped?
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