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Also, why is "ladies'-night" at clubs, where women might get discounted or free drinks due to the fact that they are women, not a discriminatory practice? I thought you were required to treat all customers equally?
I looked at the thread in question and found most people just didn't care about the church bulletin discount. The real question is why are you always making up ficticious positions and then attributing them to "liberals"? Do you enjoy fighting against strawmen that much or does it scare you to actually listen to what people ACTUALLY have to say instead of what you wish they would say or hope they would say?
I looked at the thread in question and found most people just didn't care about the church bulletin discount. The real question is why are you always making up ficticious positions and then attributing them to "liberals"?
Apparently enough people cared to warrant news coverage and lawsuit threats by FFRF. This is not a fictitious position though.
Although you're right, I cannot determine with 100% accuracy whether or not said group is left or right-wing. I just had a hunch they weren't conservatives. Therefore, I deleted the word "liberal" from the thread. Now you can explain the logic behind going after restaurants offering 10% discounts, but not going after bars for offering discounts based on gender.
Also, why is "ladies'-night" at clubs, where women might get discounted or free drinks due to the fact that they are women, not a discriminatory practice? I thought you were required to treat all customers equally?
Who said it isn't? I'm liberal and I really really hate so called ladies' nights. For one, because it implies that women are not capable of buying their own drinks, and for two, because it implies there's lots of drunk women who'll flirt with your lame arse for the price of a free cocktail.
I also don't think women need special incentives to open businesses, they're quite capable of doing so even in the face of possible discrimination when it comes to business loans etc. Although you'll find that the incentives really aren't much to write home about, and that corporate incentives way out weigh any special breaks for women owned small businesses, no matter who the principal is. So I'd rather they just drop it altogether, doesn't really help and makes women appear weak and incapable. Which is worse than the "help".
It's pretty simple, really. In these things it's never a question of whether a certain practice is discrimination, it is whether it is prohibited discrimination.
In this particular case, the law prohibits discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of religion, but in most (if not all) states it does not prohibit discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of sex or age.
I disagree with practices like free admisison for women, discounts for people above a certain age, and so forth, but the law is what it is.
Think4Yourself is 100% correct: you're reaching way out on a limb to make some dispute about "the liberals".
It's pretty simple, really. In these things it's never a question of whether a certain practice is discrimination, it is whether it is prohibited discrimination.
In this particular case, the law prohibits discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of religion, but in most (if not all) states it does not prohibit discrimination in public accommodations on the basis of sex or age.
I disagree with practices like free admisison for women, discounts for people above a certain age, and so forth, but the law is what it is.
Think4Yourself is 100% correct: you're reaching way out on a limb to make some dispute about "the liberals".
So giving discounts based on gender is not prohibited, but giving discounts based on the ability to furnish a church bulletin is?
Again, despite the global economy and situation, the US people persist in pissing contests about wedding dresses, cakes, farm weddings, pizza coupons in church bulletins and ladies night.
How the heck did we turn into a culture of whiny -preschoolers, in need of a nap?
Again, despite the global economy and situation, the US people persist in pissing contests about wedding dresses, cakes, farm weddings, pizza coupons in church bulletins and ladies night.
How the heck did we turn into a culture of whiny -preschoolers, in need of a nap?
Becoming outraged or not is a choice.
I have a lot of respect for you, and you're generally spot on, so I respectfully disagree on this one.
Life goes on and these things are also important in the grand scheme, when it pertains to you and yours and the fair treatment of such.
Who said it isn't? I'm liberal and I really really hate so called ladies' nights. For one, because it implies that women are not capable of buying their own drinks, and for two, because it implies there's lots of drunk women who'll flirt with your lame arse for the price of a free cocktail.
I also don't think women need special incentives to open businesses, they're quite capable of doing so even in the face of possible discrimination when it comes to business loans etc. Although you'll find that the incentives really aren't much to write home about, and that corporate incentives way out weigh any special breaks for women owned small businesses, no matter who the principal is. So I'd rather they just drop it altogether, doesn't really help and makes women appear weak and incapable. Which is worse than the "help".
As a former DJ, I loved ladies nights. Why? The ladies are the ones that get the dance floor going. Not a bunch of dudes. Plus who the hell wants to go to a sausage party? I hated DJing at bars where there were more men than women. Boooring.
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