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Old 08-31-2014, 06:24 PM
 
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LOL...alrighty then. Well, glad the company is abiding by the law now. Two questions though...

So when you say "black people," are you excluding or including "black" Latino, Caribbean and African people?

Are you ignoring that there are people who you likely perceive as "black" that are illegal immigrants too?

Just curious.
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Old 08-31-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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I seem to recall when Alabama enacted harsher policies on hiring undocumented immigrants, a lot of food ended up rotting in the field because producers couldn't find American workers to do the work as quickly or as well (or at all).

Immigration law already hurting farms | TuscaloosaNews.com

I'm not saying what's right or wrong, but I am saying apparently it is hard to find American citizens to do this work.
The problem becomes if the farmer in the neighboring state is using illegal immigrants then the farmer following the law cannot remain competitive becsue of the higher costs. Someone has to pick produce, if every farmer was forced to hire legal workers they would have to increase the pay scale until someone took the job.
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Old 08-31-2014, 06:56 PM
 
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Plumbers don't clean toilets the get them working properly, the next time you hire a plumber ask him to clean your toilet and let us know what he says. And no one wants to work in a field doing hard sweaty,dirty just downright nasty work for below minimum wage. Heck if your paying low enough how's the worker going to be able to afford housing or food ? Do you really think someone would want to live at work like that ?
FYI, only 3% of illegals are working the fields. The rest are doing jobs that Americans have always done for a fair wage that is until the arrival of cheap, illegal labor that lowered those wages.
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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RAEFORD: At House of Raeford, far fewer Latino workers | Nation/World | NewsObserver.com

More repulsive liberal lies!

"We need illegal immigrants because American's won't do the work!"

As this case proves, liberals are woefully uninformed, America-hating, emotional crybabies who should NEVER be trusted to guide American policy. EVER!

And black people.....when will you folks EVER LEARN that Democrats and Liberals are NOT on your side? These are jobs your community could have taken years ago....and yet you absolutely refuse to hold Democrats accountable for WILLINGLY letting your jobs be given to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS????

Raise your hand if you're still for giving these people amnesty???

Unbelievable!
AeroGuyDC, this isn't a liberal lie, it's a business owner lie. businesses like to pay below market value wages so they can pocket more profits...
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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LOL...alrighty then. Well, glad the company is abiding by the law now. Two questions though...

So when you say "black people," are you excluding or including "black" Latino, Caribbean and African people?

Are you ignoring that there are people who you likely perceive as "black" that are illegal immigrants too?

Just curious.
I'm including any American citizen.....and most relevantly....black American citizens whose jobs are taken by the millions of illegal immigrants. I want to know why these black people turn a blind eye to the very Democratic politicians who are actively working to make sure that illegal immigrants continue to take their employment opportunities.
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:11 PM
 
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AeroGuyDC, this isn't a liberal lie, it's a business owner lie. businesses like to pay below market value wages so they can pocket more profits...
The US government is responsible for securing the border. Had the government secured the border, there wouldn't be millions of illegal immigrants for businesses to hire. Do you disagree?
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:13 PM
 
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I'm including any American citizen.....and most relevantly....black American citizens whose jobs are taken by the millions of illegal immigrants. I want to know why these black people turn a blind eye to the very Democratic politicians who are actively working to make sure that illegal immigrants continue to take their employment opportunities.
Please answer my questions that are based on your statements. Again...

So when you say "black people," are you excluding or including "black" Latino, Caribbean and African people?

Are you ignoring that there are people who you likely perceive as "black" that are illegal immigrants too?
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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The US government is responsible for securing the border. Had the government secured the border, there wouldn't be millions of illegal immigrants for businesses to hire. Do you disagree?
I don't disagree. There is definitely a problem with boarder security and the federal government is at fault.
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Atlantis
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I seem to recall when Alabama enacted harsher policies on hiring undocumented immigrants, a lot of food ended up rotting in the field because producers couldn't find American workers to do the work as quickly or as well (or at all).

A lot of food ended up rotting in the field because producers were unwilling to pay in terms of wages, what it actually costs for a person to do the work and still be able to provide for themselves after working 40+ hours a week.

The food ended up rotting in the field because the producers would rather watch it rot in the field than pay what an objective wage would be to have the work done.

The food ended up rotting in the field because people shopping at grocery stores do not want to pay what it actually costs for the produce they are buying.

The food ended up rotting in the field because the producers were too cheap and incompetent to structure their business in a way that would enable them to pay a living wage for the labor that they required to keep the food from rotting in the field.
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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Yes. Liberals go to the government to get what they want. In this case business owners want open borders because they can pay the newcomers less than those already here. Definition of liberal.
Cause when the Republicans were in charge they did such a great job of closing the borders. Hahahahahahaha hahahahahah. Soon they will be in charge again but this time, they'll close the borders, hahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahah.

As long as rich business owners (republican or democrat) can benefit from cheap labor, the borders will remain open, anyone thinking otherwise is an idiot.
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