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Old 09-04-2014, 10:32 PM
 
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When Muslims kill homosexuals and abuse and deny rights to women? And why do liberals bash Christianity while they defend Islam? Every time somebody criticizes Islam for what it is, a liberal will chime in and say "Christianity has people who are just as bad!" and compare the Evangelical Christians to "Muslim extremists." Last time I checked, I didn't see the Evangelicals hanging somebody because they were gay or abusing women. Ironic, because there are Muslims who would love to behead any liberal(and any other American), despite showing "tolerance."

 
Old 09-04-2014, 10:42 PM
 
Location: California
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I don't know that "liberals side with muslims". I didn't know there were sides. Is there a specific instance your are thinking of?
 
Old 09-04-2014, 10:57 PM
 
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Because they're such wonderful people and we love them so much for being such wonderful people which is why we love them so much because they're wonderful people...
 
Old 09-04-2014, 10:59 PM
 
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When Muslims kill homosexuals and abuse and deny rights to women? And why do liberals bash Christianity while they defend Islam? Every time somebody criticizes Islam for what it is, a liberal will chime in and say "Christianity has people who are just as bad!" and compare the Evangelical Christians to "Muslim extremists." Last time I checked, I didn't see the Evangelicals hanging somebody because they were gay or abusing women. Ironic, because there are Muslims who would love to behead any liberal(and any other American), despite showing "tolerance."
Because Muslims are fighting against industrialized Western society. It's the same reason why liberals don't care about racism when it's racism against whites, sexism when it's sexism against men, sexual orientation bashing if it is against heterosexuals, big money influencing politics if it is labor union money rather than corporate money, Wall Street profits if it means it makes Obama look good, corporate welfare if it is going towards green energy companies, etc.

Oikophobia - WSJ

If you think liberals truly believe in the principles they espouse, then it's easy to get confused by their blatant and consistent hypocrisy. What you have to realize is that the principles don't actually mean anything. The principles they espouse are only tools. It isn't the principle they believe in, it is the end goal they believe in. The principle is only a means to get there. They will defend your constitutional right to an abortion to their last breath, while simultaneously fighting to their last breath to deny you your constitutional right to bear arms. It isn't holding your rights sacred that matters. It's gun control and abortion they care about it. Whether or not a constitutional right exists or is being violated is only important insofar as it supports their end goal.

As for how this impacts Muslims - when it comes to their end goal of turning America into a socialist democracy ala the European nations, getting rid of traditional conservative American values means supporting Muslims. It's an enemy of my enemy is my friend situation. When it came to apartheid in South Africa oppressing blacks, liberals were marching in the streets against it. Because the government of South Africa was a traditional white Western style government. When it comes to Muslims oppressing women and homosexuals, it's a non-white non-Christian non-Western group that Republicans are already known to oppose. So then their marching in the streets turns into multicultural tolerance of others.

Of course this doesn't apply to all liberals, I'm just speaking of the ones who do things like supporting Hamas while simultaneously condemning the "war on women" in America.
 
Old 09-04-2014, 11:12 PM
 
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I didn't see the Evangelicals hanging somebody because they were gay or abusing women.

Is it because we keep them in check just like we do the Muslims ? Or you didn't see it so it never happened ? Show me where a Muslim ask his victim if he is a conservative or a liberal before he removes his head. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. When conservatives and liberals realize that, then we will have an abundance of statesmen to replace the inbreeding politicians that are our current crop of do nothing party loyalist. Even if you were on the right track your still on the wrong train with a ticket to nowhere.
 
Old 09-04-2014, 11:29 PM
 
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I'm not so sure that they sound like Muslims, but they certainly echo the words of radical Islam. Every gripe that ISIS, Hezbollah, and Al Queda has about the US, the liberals have the same issue.

They all want to see the US "punished."

Many liberals were cheering after 9/11..."YAY down with America!!! That's what you get!!!"
 
Old 09-04-2014, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I "side" with whoever I think is right on a particular issue. Overall, Christian extremists are a much more credible threat to the liberty of Americans than Muslim extremists, because there are so many more of them. The Iraq War, which was launched by, and supported by, the dirtball religious right, killed more Americans than all Muslim terrorism in the last 100 years including 9/11.
 
Old 09-04-2014, 11:52 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Because Muslims are fighting against industrialized Western society. It's the same reason why liberals don't care about racism when it's racism against whites, sexism when it's sexism against men, sexual orientation bashing if it is against heterosexuals, big money influencing politics if it is labor union money rather than corporate money, Wall Street profits if it means it makes Obama look good, corporate welfare if it is going towards green energy companies, etc.

Oikophobia - WSJ

If you think liberals truly believe in the principles they espouse, then it's easy to get confused by their blatant and consistent hypocrisy. What you have to realize is that the principles don't actually mean anything. The principles they espouse are only tools. It isn't the principle they believe in, it is the end goal they believe in. The principle is only a means to get there. They will defend your constitutional right to an abortion to their last breath, while simultaneously fighting to their last breath to deny you your constitutional right to bear arms. It isn't holding your rights sacred that matters. It's gun control and abortion they care about it. Whether or not a constitutional right exists or is being violated is only important insofar as it supports their end goal.

As for how this impacts Muslims - when it comes to their end goal of turning America into a socialist democracy ala the European nations, getting rid of traditional conservative American values means supporting Muslims. It's an enemy of my enemy is my friend situation. When it came to apartheid in South Africa oppressing blacks, liberals were marching in the streets against it. Because the government of South Africa was a traditional white Western style government. When it comes to Muslims oppressing women and homosexuals, it's a non-white non-Christian non-Western group that Republicans are already known to oppose. So then their marching in the streets turns into multicultural tolerance of others.

Of course this doesn't apply to all liberals, I'm just speaking of the ones who do things like supporting Hamas while simultaneously condemning the "war on women" in America.
One of the most spot-on posts I've ever read on C-D, kudos.
 
Old 09-05-2014, 12:04 AM
 
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I'm not so sure that they sound like Muslims, but they certainly echo the words of radical Islam. Every gripe that ISIS, Hezbollah, and Al Queda has about the US, the liberals have the same issue.

They all want to see the US "punished."

Many liberals were cheering after 9/11..."YAY down with America!!! That's what you get!!!"
Total BS. I know it. You know it.
 
Old 09-05-2014, 12:04 AM
 
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I separate Liberals from Leftists in my mind because I think they are different. A Liberal wants few controls on personal behavior while a Leftist wants full control of personal behavior. Liberals do clash with a certain element of the Religious Right because they perceive the RR as trying to control their behavior. Liberals also clash with Muslims for the same reason.

Leftists are those people that believe they are smarter than everybody else and want to decide what behavior is acceptable and control everyone. Muslims and Leftists are aligned in that they see the USA and Religious Right as being in the way of their control goals. They both hate traditional America and Americans. These are the 2 groups I'm fighting to prevent their control over me and my family.
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