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Old 09-05-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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Would you feel the same way if say you had a small child killed in a fire because his PJs and bedding went up like a magnesium flare? After all, the makers could be prosecuted afterwards.
So, who would make children's clothes that light up like magnesium flares if they will be criminally prosecuted?
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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And just how do you retaliate against someone who kills another or causes them permanent life altering injuries?

A life sentence, forfeiture of all worldly goods, whatever still can't restore the injured's life to normal.
And regulating people who do not harm others in such a way it harms them is... totally acceptable to you.

It seems you want us all to suffer, so that you can claim to want to help a few.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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To quote you, "Wow, just wow" By your logic a drug maker selling you a drug that kills you is just fine as long as they never said it wouldn't kill you. "Wow, just wow"

They are if the crash is caused by a known design/manufacturing flaw that's gone uncorrected.
Companies being able to sell anything, including what can harm you, is perfectly fine for some people because they see it as freedom. Double freedom if they don't need to label the item at all. Triple freedom if they can intentionally deceive people about it until a customer finds out later and sues them...but is restricted from damages by regulations in tort law.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:22 AM
 
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Remember the great recession? That was caused by a lack of regulation.
100% false. It was CAUSED by government and regulation.


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It's perfectly intelligent to be against bad regulations, but to be against regulation in general is rather not intelligent. A free market requires regulation to stay relatively free.
Yes, and to stay alive means you need to be dying. Sheesh. What folderol!
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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The FDA has dramatic lowered the acceptable allowance of nontoxigenic bacteria in cheese because it thinks that reduces the limit of a harmless bacteria will make the cheese safer.

This is the primary problem with regulation as it exists today. It's not about lowering an actual risk, but rather doing something that sounds good, but has no actual effect other than making some things more expensive and putting some businesses out of business.

FDA restrictions keeping some great cheeses out of stores - LA Times
How do you know you wouldn't be dead already without regulation?
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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Actually people died of food poisoning, industrial accidents and toxic water about 1000% more than now. So the fact is, many didn't survive.
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The life expectancy is much longer today.
all true, but years ago regulation was reactive. there was a problem, and government reacted, but with forethought and research. today however government is being proactive with regulation, usually doing something to prevent a problem that doesnt exist.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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Are you an MD, epidemiologists or a biochemist? If not, what makes you think you know anything on the subject?


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The FDA has dramatic lowered the acceptable allowance of nontoxigenic bacteria in cheese because it thinks that reduces the limit of a harmless bacteria will make the cheese safer.

This is the primary problem with regulation as it exists today. It's not about lowering an actual risk, but rather doing something that sounds good, but has no actual effect other than making some things more expensive and putting some businesses out of business.

FDA restrictions keeping some great cheeses out of stores - LA Times
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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So, who would make children's clothes that light up like magnesium flares if they will be criminally prosecuted?

The same people who run other illegal scams.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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"Regulations" almost without exception, are initiations of force. Supposedly stopping "crimes" before they occur. Assuming guilt of some sort ahead of time instead of a presumption of innocence. Evil, stupid, and destructive State aggression. The law should be designed to retaliate against crimes that have occurred instead of initiating force against crimes that might happen. But that would be too rational for an irrational fictional creation like the State.

It's basically fining someone for supposed "thoughtcrime" and the out of control progressive government is shoving more up our ___ everyday.
Progressives want to regulate how many atoms can occupy a room at one time. If too many are NO or CO2 someone may get fined or carted off to jail for some reason.

Someone is at fault, DAMMIT!!

Thearical hysterics are intended.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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We could make a regulation against life, then nobody would ever die.
Don't give the statists any ideas.
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