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I did, until this thread reminded me.
Thanks for nothing!
By the way, who verifies what Snopes has to say?
I'm reminded of various "Lists of Towing Laws" that can be found on the internet. they are notoriously inaccurate, yet some people swear by them!
The Japanese were just misunderstood and the people of the US caused them to act the way they did with our aggressiveness.
It seems like SOME always blame the victims for political gain. For example Japan has denied Nanjing Massacre for years. In Germany, Holocaust denial is considered illegal.
Nixon was engaged in trying to wind down American involvement in Vietnam and had to face another election in a few months, so politically he had far more to lose than to gain by making a martyr out of a prominent anti-war activist (Hanoi Jane)
I am pretty sure she knew what she did. I have no respect for her. She is at least a very insensitive b*ch
ome of the POWs who actually did meet with Jane Fonda, such as Edison Miller, have spoken out on the record over the years to disclaim the apocryphal stories about her
"The whole [e-mail] story about Jane Fonda is just malarkey," said Edison Miller, 73, of California, a former Marine Corps pilot held more than five years. Miller was among seven POWs who met with Fonda in Hanoi. He said he didn't recall her asking any questions other than about their names, if that. He said that he passed her no piece of paper, and that to his knowledge, no other POW in the group did, despite the e-mail's claims.
Col. Larry Carrigan, the U.S. serviceman whose name is invoked in the e-mailed reproduced at the head of this article, has affirmed that he neither claimed nor experienced any of what has been attributed to him, and that he never even met Jane Fonda:
"It's a figment of somebody's imagination." said Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, one of the servicemen mentioned in the 'slips of paper' incident. Carrigan was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967 and did spend time in a POW camp. He has no idea why the story was attributed to him, saying, "I never met Jane Fonda." In 2005, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that Carrigan "is so tired of having to repeat that he wasn't beaten after Fonda's visit and that there were no beating deaths at that time that he won't talk to the media anymore."
The tale about a defiant serviceman who spit at Jane Fonda and was severely beaten as a result is often attributed to Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll. He has also repeatedly stated on the record that it did not originate with him:
Driscoll said he never met Fonda, as the e-mail claims — and therefore, never spit on her and didn't suffer permanent double vision from a subsequent beating. "Totally false. It did not happen," Driscoll said.
I would place a bet, if this were a 73 yr old conservative, claiming things happened, the left would claim Dementia or Alzheimer's.
It seems like SOME always blame the victims for political gain. For example Japan has denied Nanjing Massacre for years. In Germany, Holocaust denial is considered illegal.
Nixon was engaged in trying to wind down American involvement in Vietnam and had to face another election in a few months, so politically he had far more to lose than to gain by making a martyr out of a prominent anti-war activist (Hanoi Jane)
I am pretty sure she knew what she did. I have no respect for her. She is at least a very insensitive b*ch
It seems like SOME always blame the victims for political gain. For example Japan has denied Nanjing Massacre for years.
There's enough independant documentation to assure all that these events did indeed happen just as the the people of Nanjing and the Concentration camps victims said. I'm sure if it was up to the Chinese and Jews at the end of world war 2 both Germany and Japan would have been bombed out of existance.
It seems like SOME always blame the victims for political gain. For example Japan has denied Nanjing Massacre for years.
There's enough independant documentation to assure all that these events did indeed happen just as the the people of Nanjing and the Concentration camps victims said. I'm sure if it was up to the Chinese and Jews at the end of world war 2 both Germany and Japan would have been bombed out of existance.
It seems like SOME always blame the victims for political gain. For example Japan has denied Nanjing Massacre for years.
There's enough independant documentation to assure all that these events did indeed happen just as the the people of Nanjing and the Concentration camps victims said. I'm sure if it was up to the Chinese and Jews at the end of world war 2 both Germany and Japan would have been bombed out of existance.
Lot of know nothings, sitting behind a keyboard talking about something that they have no clue about!
Fonda should have been treated as a traitor and executed and just because time has passed ... does Nothing to change my mind!
As one who was serving at the time .. I can say that there were entire units that would have jumped at the opportunity to put her and Ramsey Clark six feet underneath NVA territory!
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Visits to Hanoi by Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and would struggle along with us ... those people represented the conscience of America ....part of it's war-making capability, and we were turning that power in our favor."
Former Colonel Bui Tin who served on the general staff of the North Vietnamese Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30,1975, confirmed the American Tet 1968 military victory
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"I would like to say something, not just to Vietnam veterans in New England, but to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did." Jane Fonda
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