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Old 10-12-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Thanks to Obama and the Democrats, we may have missed this opportunity. This tells us the Democrats are not on the side of America when in comes to energy. They couldn't care less about you and me, our heating bills, or cheap, plentiful energy. They'd rather reward their "green" supporters like Tom Steyer.

Blog: Canada is fed-up with US delay of Keystone, now planning alternative pipeline
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:03 PM
 
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Canada could wait until after the mid terms. Then it could be moot for Obama. His veto will over turned.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Thanks to Obama and the Democrats, we may have missed this opportunity. This tells us the Democrats are not on the side of America when in comes to energy. They couldn't care less about you and me, our heating bills, or cheap, plentiful energy. They'd rather reward their "green" supporters like Tom Steyer.

Blog: Canada is fed-up with US delay of Keystone, now planning alternative pipeline
Keystone XL wouldn't reduce your heating bill. The objective of the Keystone XL, Energy East, Northern Gateway et al pipelines isn't to reduce North American heating bills but to move Tar Sands oil to ports for export. Canada wants as many pipelines as possible to move its oil to export markets. Energy East and Northern Gateway would go ahead whether or not Keystone XL was built. Canada benefits by exporting oil, but America benefits little by moving Canadian oil to US ports for export.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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Keystone wouldn't reduce your heating bill. The objective of the Keystone XL, Energy East, Northern Gateway et al pipelines isn't to reduce North American heating bills but to move Tar Sands oil to ports for export. Energy East and Northern Gateway would go ahead whether or not Keystone was built. Canada wants as many pipelines as possible to move its oil to export markets. Canada benefits by exporting oil, but America benefits little by moving Canadian oil to US ports for export.
Some of it, not all of it.

I am moving that stuff anyway.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Thanks to Obama and the Democrats, we may have missed this opportunity. This tells us the Democrats are not on the side of America when in comes to energy. They couldn't care less about you and me, our heating bills, or cheap, plentiful energy. They'd rather reward their "green" supporters like Tom Steyer.

Blog: Canada is fed-up with US delay of Keystone, now planning alternative pipeline
Ahem..........see the link........what more can one say regarding your bolded statement?

Big milestone: U.S. producing more oil than it imports

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ports/3518245/

The nation has been moving toward this milestone, because two trends are converging. Domestic oil production is at a 24-year high while foreign oil imports are at a 17-year low.

Besides, all that oil was destined to jam up our refinery's production capacity and actually raise the price of gas at the pump. It was all to be exported to Asia after refining.......but you already knew that.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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Thanks to Obama and the Democrats, we may have missed this opportunity. This tells us the Democrats are not on the side of America when in comes to energy. They couldn't care less about you and me, our heating bills, or cheap, plentiful energy. They'd rather reward their "green" supporters like Tom Steyer.

Blog: Canada is fed-up with US delay of Keystone, now planning alternative pipeline
Excellent news. I hope all the Americans who had their land seized through eminent domain for the benefit of a private Canadian oil company can get their land back.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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Ahem..........see the link........what more can one say regarding your bolded statement?

Big milestone: U.S. producing more oil than it imports

Big milestone: U.S. producing more oil than it imports

The nation has been moving toward this milestone, because two trends are converging. Domestic oil production is at a 24-year high while foreign oil imports are at a 17-year low.

Besides, all that oil was destined to jam up our refinery's production and be exported to Asia.......but you already knew that.
So?

The oil produces jobs in the pipeline and refining jobs. And don't give that tired refrain about how few jobs it would produce.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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TransCanada chief executive Russ Girling insisted Thursday that the company’s effort to win support for Energy East had nothing to do with uncertainty in the U.S. “The Keystone process is an independent process that really has nothing to do with this project,” he told reporters Thursday. “The marketplace needs both of these pipelines – and probably more as we move forward.”
More are being planned; none have been approved.

Pipeline builders struggling to keep up with producers - The Globe and Mail
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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Obama can't stop the pipeline from being built. He can only stop it crossing the border.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Keystone XL wouldn't reduce your heating bill. The objective of the Keystone XL, Energy East, Northern Gateway et al pipelines isn't to reduce North American heating bills but to move Tar Sands oil to ports for export. Canada wants as many pipelines as possible to move its oil to export markets. Energy East and Northern Gateway would go ahead whether or not Keystone XL was built. Canada benefits by exporting oil, but America benefits little by moving Canadian oil to US ports for export.
Exactly. Energy East has nothing to do with the Keystone XL pipeline, but let the hysteria commence.
What else can you expect from American Thinker? Dismayed and angry Canadians, indeed!
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