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Old 10-18-2014, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Here in the real world - Obama passed Obamacare with ZERO Republican votes. Had Obama been a strong enough leader to rally his party, he could have passed universal healthcare coverage. But as we both know, Obama is not a strong leader.

So we are stuck with 31,000,000 non-elderly uninsured Americans for the cost of $2,000,000,000,000 over the next 10 years and a loss equivalent to 2,500,000 full time jobs. What an inefficient monster.





So you admit the logic you originally used was ridiculous.
There was no way to get universal healthcare passed with the opposition the Republicans were doing. What we got was the best that could be done with Republicans trying to block anything and everything.

Maybe one day Republicans will come to their senses and realize that we still have too many Americans without insurance and do the right thing.

Not sure what original logic you are referring to.
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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So health insurance premiums are going up? So they are doing the same thing that use to happen with insurance before ACA...
Yeah but yeah but yeah but


Obummer Promises To Lower Rates

Liberals no longer have any credibility. None

It's time to give it up. Liberals are done come November. It's over.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yeah but yeah but yeah but


Obummer Promises To Lower Rates

Liberals no longer have any credibility. None

It's time to give it up. Liberals are done come November. It's over.
And what are you gonna say after November when that doesn't happen? Or in 2016 when Republicans lose the presidential election again and lose ground in Congress?

If you cared at all about credibility, you would have said conservatives have lost all credibility as well.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:47 PM
 
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There was no way to get universal healthcare passed with the opposition the Republicans were doing. What we got was the best that could be done with Republicans trying to block anything and everything.

Maybe one day Republicans will come to their senses and realize that we still have too many Americans without insurance and do the right thing.
That must be the 47% of dead beats that Romney was referring to that want their free stuff.

You still don't get that Obama isn't a dictator. Obviously you don't get not everyone slobbered over Obama and not everyone looks to government to take care of them.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:48 PM
 
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And what are you gonna say after November when that doesn't happen? Or in 2016 when Republicans lose the presidential election again and lose ground in Congress?

If you cared at all about credibility, you would have said conservatives have lost all credibility as well.
"if you like your healthcare you can keep your healthcare, period!"
-- The LIAR.. Barack Obama
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:57 PM
 
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"if you like your healthcare you can keep your healthcare, period!"
-- The LIAR.. Barack Obama
I can keep my healthcare.
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:01 AM
 
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And what are you gonna say after November when that doesn't happen? Or in 2016 when Republicans lose the presidential election again and lose ground in Congress?

If you cared at all about credibility, you would have said conservatives have lost all credibility as well.
For many insurance premiums have already jumped including mine yet you choose to ignore that to push you or your brothers free ride.
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:03 AM
 
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I can keep my healthcare.
"Due to ACA (better known as Obamacare) your insurance is being terminated. AND because my healthcare insurance MET the requirements I got grandfathered in and WILL LOSE MY INSURANCE December 2014.

So Nat, you calling me a liar?
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:09 AM
 
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"Due to ACA (better known as Obamacare) your insurance is being terminated. AND because my healthcare insurance MET the requirements I got grandfathered in and WILL LOSE MY INSURANCE December 2014.

So Nat, you calling me a liar?
Not calling you a liar at all. I'm just telling you I can keep my insurance.
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That must be the 47% of dead beats that Romney was referring to that want their free stuff.

You still don't get that Obama isn't a dictator. Obviously you don't get not everyone slobbered over Obama and not everyone looks to government to take care of them.
47%? You mean the military, the handicap, and the elderly? Or do you mean the percentage that voted for Romney?
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