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Old 10-28-2014, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Liberalism at its finest folks.

Its all part of a new city wide "minimum wage increase".

Funny because Liberals are always bagging on Texas for only creating minimum wage jobs, now California is eating its words...literally.

Skip the tip: 5 San Francisco area restaurants add 20-percent to tabs | abc7chicago.com
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Old 10-28-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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Liberalism at its finest folks.

Its all part of a new city wide "minimum wage increase".
So... you're complaining that people are getting a more reasonable wage?

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Funny because Liberals are always bagging on Texas for only creating minimum wage jobs, now California is eating its words...literally.

Skip the tip: 5 San Francisco area restaurants add 20-percent to tabs | abc7chicago.com
Texas does create mostly low-wage jobs. I see nothing wrong with this idea. The reality is, tips are used to justify paying servers slave wages. Then these poor servers come across self-righteous ******* religious people who refuse to tip, making the house pick up the tab to get them to minimum wage. Adding a mandatory gratuity is already standard most places for large parties. In other countries, tipped employees such as servers get the minimum wage regardless of tips.

This article just reinforces how backwards America is. Your negative attitude towards it just reinforces how low we have sunk as a culture in regards to the dignity of work.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:00 PM
 
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Liberalism at its finest folks.

Its all part of a new city wide "minimum wage increase".

Funny because Liberals are always bagging on Texas for only creating minimum wage jobs, now California is eating its words...literally.

Skip the tip: 5 San Francisco area restaurants add 20-percent to tabs | abc7chicago.com
Five restaurants to be exact. And, there are a lot of restaurants in San Fran.

So, a few want to add 20 percent, or as this guy puts it:

"But very soon, they'll both be known for being among the city's only non-tipping eating establishments.

"You go to Europe, you go to Japan, service is a line item or it's included in the price of food," said restaurant co-owner Thad Vogler. "We've always thought that that was a nice idea. It gets rid of the awkward thing at the end of the meal."

Vogler says he fully expects a $15 minimum wage hike in San Francisco's future. So instead of tips, his team's two restaurants will collect a flat 20 percent service charge"

SF is nothing like Europe, and really neither is their food, but if that is what these establishments want to do, the consumer will decide if they want to eat there with this new 20 percent tip or not. If it were me, it would definitely be a NOT.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:05 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Those opposed to this idea -- which, let us repeat, is a voluntary measure being taken by 5 restaurants in the entire city -- probably believe that low-class peons like waiters and bussers should have to grovel and scrape for every single penny they get.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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So. It's San Francisco...It's worth it, and folks can afford it. Being an incredible city has its costs. If I'm there, I'll gladly pay it.

What I hate is the ridiculous cost of parking there, but again...It's worth it in the end.



Don't see why the OP compares it to Texas. The top 10 restaurants in DFW wouldn't even be in the top 100 in San Francisco.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Liberalism at its finest folks.

Its all part of a new city wide "minimum wage increase".

Funny because Liberals are always bagging on Texas for only creating minimum wage jobs, now California is eating its words...literally.

Skip the tip: 5 San Francisco area restaurants add 20-percent to tabs | abc7chicago.com
Skip the tip and go straight to 20 percent? That's nothing.

[shrug]
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:13 PM
 
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I usually tip twenty percent unless the service is bad but I really don't like the idea of it being automatically added to my bill.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:15 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Originally Posted by Metro Matt View Post
Liberalism at its finest folks.

Its all part of a new city wide "minimum wage increase".

Funny because Liberals are always bagging on Texas for only creating minimum wage jobs, now California is eating its words...literally.

Skip the tip: 5 San Francisco area restaurants add 20-percent to tabs | abc7chicago.com
Great idea. San Fran servers & bartenders should have ALL their tips fully taxed, pooled & then split "equitably" with the chefs, cooks, dishwashers et al. If they think socialism is great, this will give them a real taste of it.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:20 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Those opposed to this idea -- which, let us repeat, is a voluntary measure being taken by 5 restaurants in the entire city -- probably believe that low-class peons like waiters and bussers should have to grovel and scrape for every single penny they get.
The only people losing on this deal are bad tippers, servers & bartenders. In an industry absolutely rife with tax fraud, this should cut their monthly earnings by 30-50%. Plus, as I read this, they're no longer going to receive the tips they earn, but rather have one "service" pool that will be split up to include the kitchen staff.
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Old 10-28-2014, 09:25 PM
 
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Liberalism at its finest folks.

Its all part of a new city wide "minimum wage increase".

Funny because Liberals are always bagging on Texas for only creating minimum wage jobs, now California is eating its words...literally.

Skip the tip: 5 San Francisco area restaurants add 20-percent to tabs | abc7chicago.com
We always leave a 20% tip in restaurants. Their wages depend on this. But a lot of people are scrooges and leave virtually nothing. And many restaurants have a policy that the tip would be added on with a certain amount of people.
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